Twins vs 2016 Miata (ND body style) will be revealed in 15 minutes

[krayzie]

That engine in the picture (from the launch show car) is probably a run of the mill Skyactiv, look at the oil cap it's raised up for use with an engine cover. Looks ridiculous lol!

I'm thinking the hoodline of this Miata would be higher than the twins. No thanks I'm keeping the BRZ.

[Ubersuber]

JV with FIAT Group, should produce an interesting car both sides of the Atlantic (and Pacific of course).

It was intended to use the FIAT Group four cylinder multi air but that seems to have been abandoned. The two companies worked together on the body and suspension designs according to rumours.

BRZ will still be the preferred car until Mazda makes a coupe version of the MX5 which they keep saying they will and then don't.

[mwjcyber]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

While researching the Twins prior to deciding to buy I found a very interesting statement. Thought it was an odd thing to say at the time but it did stick in my mind and makes more sense now.
Don't remember exactly which one of the 100 or so sites, blogs and owner comments pages I read that it was on but it went something like this:
"the target demographic for these cars is well know to show great passion for a new vehicle at first but can be easily distracted by the next shiny thing too come out. It is expected that these cars will be able to be bought used very cheaply in 3 or 4 years when something new comes along"

So far we have seen a reasonably large exodus from Twins ownership when the 15 WRX came out (at least one possibly two people in the few profiles above on this thread alone) and I suspect a bunch more will head over to the new Miata.

This is in absolutely no way a criticism of anybody's' choice (both the WRX and the Miata were on my own short list when I was shopping) but I did find it very interesting that the person that made that comment was so incredibly insightful and called it so well!

I imagine more will jump ship for the 15' Mustang, 16' Camaro, 16' Focus RS, 16' Z-car, 16' Infinity Q60 (G37), and others since it seems auto makers just realized people want performance oriented cars, not just Camry's and F150's.

[PeterFRS]

^ this.

and Honda thinking...um......shit..

[Rampage]

Originally Posted by mwjcyber

I imagine more will jump ship for the 15' Mustang, 16' Camaro, 16' Focus RS, 16' Z-car, 16' Infinity Q60 (G37), and others since it seems auto makers just realized people want performance oriented cars, not just Camry's and F150's.

An automotive history lesson: This is a cyclic thing. Every decade or so automakers have this great revelation that consumers want exciting drivers cars. It will pass in due time. Camry and F150 type vehicles will always be in demand though.

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Tcoat

While researching the Twins prior to deciding to buy I found a very interesting statement. Thought it was an odd thing to say at the time but it did stick in my mind and makes more sense now.
Don't remember exactly which one of the 100 or so sites, blogs and owner comments pages I read that it was on but it went something like this:
"the target demographic for these cars is well know to show great passion for a new vehicle at first but can be easily distracted by the next shiny thing too come out. It is expected that these cars will be able to be bought used very cheaply in 3 or 4 years when something new comes along"

So far we have seen a reasonably large exodus from Twins ownership when the 15 WRX came out (at least one possibly two people in the few profiles above on this thread alone) and I suspect a bunch more will head over to the new Miata.

This is in absolutely no way a criticism of anybody's' choice (both the WRX and the Miata were on my own short list when I was shopping) but I did find it very interesting that the person that made that comment was so incredibly insightful and called it so well!

I think the trick is to find a car that you enjoy in absolute, and not relative, terms. For example, I've got a MK6 GTI, and when the MK7 GTI (and Focus ST and WRX) came out, a bunch of owners jumped ship. I thought about it briefly, but realized I'm happy with the MK6 for how I use it. I don't doubt the MK7 might be better in every single way by comparison, but the MK6 is a car I'm perfectly content with. No need to chase every shiny new thing that comes along.

I'm at the same point with my FR-S. I'm sure better cars will come along (whether it's the ND Miata or 2016 FR-S), but that doesn't change the fact that the current FR-S is a phenomenal car that's done amazingly well the way I use it (90% daily, 10% track).

The fact that something newer and more shiny comes along doesn't change the nature of what you already have in hand.

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by krayzie

That engine in the picture (from the launch show car) is probably a run of the mill Skyactiv, look at the oil cap it's raised up for use with an engine cover. Looks ridiculous lol!

I'm thinking the hoodline of this Miata would be higher than the twins. No thanks I'm keeping the BRZ.

It definitely looks as though the Miata has a lower hoodline than the BRZ.

Not sure why that would be a determining factory in buying a car though?

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by WolfpackS2k

It definitely looks as though the Miata has a lower hoodline than the BRZ.

Not sure why that would be a determining factory in buying a car though?

Grew up with Hondas of the late 80's and early 90's, very fond of the visibility and low driving position of those cars.

[Hot Lava]

Meh otta. Too small to offer any practical cargo space, boring body design.

[Teseo]

Miata will have the stigma of be a girly car.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Teseo

Miata will have the stigma of be a girly car.

people that propogate that get have the stigma of being simple people.

[glamcem]

http://blog.caranddriver.com/oh-yes-...uld-look-like/

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

I think the trick is to find a car that you enjoy in absolute, and not relative, terms. For example, I've got a MK6 GTI, and when the MK7 GTI (and Focus ST and WRX) came out, a bunch of owners jumped ship. I thought about it briefly, but realized I'm happy with the MK6 for how I use it. I don't doubt the MK7 might be better in every single way by comparison, but the MK6 is a car I'm perfectly content with. No need to chase every shiny new thing that comes along.

I'm at the same point with my FR-S. I'm sure better cars will come along (whether it's the ND Miata or 2016 FR-S), but that doesn't change the fact that the current FR-S is a phenomenal car that's done amazingly well the way I use it (90% daily, 10% track).

The fact that something newer and more shiny comes along doesn't change the nature of what you already have in hand.

You're right.

I say only better cars will come. Technology moves forward. But I always will love my FRS for it being the game changer for today's market. Been quite some time since we've had anything like it. $25k, lightweight, RWD, 2+2, peppy enough, and GORGEOUS!

All in all, it all comes down to how anybody can make anything competitive. It's all setup and the madman behind the wheel. But I tend to agree that the FRS happens to be phenomenally setup from factory. Now building from that will only turn this car into a monster being able to slay Goliaths. I wouldn't own one if I didn't think so. AE86.

Would be cool to see some form of this released...




I actually want this $25k RWD sports coupe market to explode. It will only give me more variety

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by hmong337

Would be cool to see some form of this released...




I actually want this $25k RWD sports coupe market to explode. It will only give me more variety

That Kia Stinger concept looks great IMO, but not sure I trust Kia to handle the suspension design or tuning. If Honda or Mazda built an FR coupe that had that body, I'd be seriously tempted lol.