Scion FRS - Track Dream build - under $20k - Normally aspirated

[ddeflyer]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ok, here's a "real" build, with MSRP prices.

JRSC, CARB - $5000
Tein SRC - $3930
AP Racing Sprint BBK (with pads) - $2125
TWS T66F 17x9 +37 - $3100
SPL Rear LCA - $600
AIM Solo DL - $700
Hankook RS3 - $600
Rear race pads - $200
Cusco LSD - $1520
Rear stainless lines - $100
Motul Engine and Trans fluids - $150
ARP wheel studs - $150
CSG Lugs - $150

Total - $18,300

Wait.... that sounds very, very similar to the CSG BRZ....

You are missing an oil cooler...

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by ddeflyer

You are missing an oil cooler...

Ooops... I'm typing this up on my laptop while at lunch... edited original post.

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by philooo

I start seeing oil starvation thread in here, is that a problem with slick tires ?
Should we think about deep oil sump or accusump system to keep oil pressure ?
I am planning to use banked track like homestead or Daytona so I need oil starvation under control.

About aero I see no cup series allowing them so I assume the car will do fine without them
I don't plan on doing time attacks

I meant for Porsche Caymans/996s (it's a real and common problem).

Idk if the 86 has those problems though..so idk.

[philooo]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ok, here's a "real" build, with MSRP prices.

JRSC, CARB - $5000
JR OC - $700
Tein SRC - $3930
AP Racing Sprint BBK (with pads) - $2125
TWS T66F 17x9 +37 - $3100
SPL Rear LCA - $600
AIM Solo DL - $700
Hankook RS3 - $600
Rear race pads - $200
Cusco LSD - $1520
Rear stainless lines - $100
Motul Engine and Trans fluids - $150
ARP wheel studs - $150
CSG Lugs - $150

Total - $19,000

Wait.... that sounds very, very similar to the CSG BRZ....

that does look like a nice spending list

Why are these TWS wheel so expensive ? I mean that is 3 times the price of the enkei...what would make them so desirable ? stronger and longer lasting ?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by philooo

that does look like a nice spending list

Why are these TWS wheel so expensive ? I mean that is 3 times the price of the enkei...what would make them so desirable ? stronger and longer lasting ?

They're forged 1 piece wheels... lighter and stronger than RPF1 by a significant margin.

[RehabJeff86]

Originally Posted by ddeflyer

Changing the headers and removing both cats (I believe one of the cats is integral to the headers) will give a very nice addition to the sound...

I've seen (heard) some cars done right and it makes them sounds mean, as in slightly pissed off mean instead not "look at me" fart can noise.

What about my set up - pissed off mean or fart can noise??

[RehabJeff86]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ok, here's a "real" build, with MSRP prices.

JRSC, CARB - $5000
JR OC - $700
Tein SRC - $3930
AP Racing Sprint BBK (with pads) - $2125
TWS T66F 17x9 +37 - $3100
SPL Rear LCA - $600
AIM Solo DL - $700
Hankook RS3 - $600
Rear race pads - $200
Cusco LSD - $1520
Rear stainless lines - $100
Motul Engine and Trans fluids - $150
ARP wheel studs - $150
CSG Lugs - $150

Total - $19,000

Wait.... that sounds very, very similar to the CSG BRZ....

I would substitute tires to NT01 ....hehehe and LSD to OS Giken....hahahaha

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ok, here's a "real" build, with MSRP prices.

JRSC, CARB - $5000
JR OC - $700
Tein SRC - $3930
AP Racing Sprint BBK (with pads) - $2125
TWS T66F 17x9 +37 - $3100
SPL Rear LCA - $600
AIM Solo DL - $700
Hankook RS3 - $600
Rear race pads - $200
Cusco LSD - $1520
Rear stainless lines - $100
Motul Engine and Trans fluids - $150
ARP wheel studs - $150
CSG Lugs - $150

Total - $19,000

Wait.... that sounds very, very similar to the CSG BRZ....

Nice setup.

I'm sure your suspension is setup pretty crazy aggressive and way beyond a street/stock car...but how would you compared your overall setup/car to a Cayman S or base 996/991? ..how about compared to your S2k?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Yui-Chan

Nice setup.

I'm sure your suspension is setup pretty crazy aggressive and way beyond a street/stock car...but how would you compared your overall setup/car to a Cayman S or base 996/991? ..how about compared to your S2k?

I don't think you truly understand what a high end damper does. "more aggressive" does not mean it rides worse. High end dampers ride BETTER. The whole job of the suspension is to make sure the chassis is isolated from the ground and keep the tires in contact with the surface. If your ride is getting worse, then you're doing it wrong.

Our setup is a 100% streetable setup, and has been replicated by many CSG clients for their daily drivers.

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

I would substitute tires to NT01 ....hehehe and LSD to OS Giken....hahahaha

How is the Guards or Quaife for the 86 compared to the Cusco or OS Giken?

I assume the Quaife is pretty mild and similar to a torsen when a wheel is airborne correct?

[Yui-Chan]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

I don't think you truly understand what a high end damper does. "more aggressive" does not mean it rides worse. High end dampers ride BETTER. The whole job of the suspension is to make sure the chassis is isolated from the ground and keep the tires in contact with the surface. If your ride is getting worse, then you're doing it wrong.

Our setup is a 100% streetable setup, and has been replicated by many CSG clients for their daily drivers.

Yes...I meant, a stock porsche might not be as capable as your tuned setup.

I never mentioned ride quality/comfort.

I also meant, how your car compares to a porsche since it has similar power now.

[Stumpygt86]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Ok, here's a "real" build, with MSRP prices.

JRSC, CARB -$5000
JR OC - $700
Tein SRC - $3930
AP Racing Sprint BBK (with pads) - $2125
TWS T66F 17x9 +37 - $3100
SPL Rear LCA - $600
AIM Solo DL - $700
Hankook RS3 - $600
Rear race pads - $200
Cusco LSD - $1520
Rear stainless lines - $100
Motul Engine and Trans fluids - $150
ARP wheel studs - $150
CSG Lugs - $150

Total - $19,000

Wait.... that sounds very, very similar to the CSG BRZ....

Sorry, but what does that stand for? (in bold)

[ddeflyer]

Originally Posted by Stumpygt86

Sorry, but what does that stand for? (in bold)

Jackson racing super charger, carb legal (carb =California air resource board)

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by Stumpygt86

Sorry, but what does that stand for? (in bold)

Jackson Racing Supercharger, CARB (California Air Resource Board) legal