Another CNET video on the twins - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

paiceyfan · 08-25-2014, 04:46 PM

http://www.cnet.com/videos/toyota-pl...and-brz-story/

Rampage · 08-25-2014, 06:45 PM

Nothing new but still a good video. I love how he compares the twins with today's supercars and high horsepower sports cars and says what is great about the twins is that you can actually tap their potential and utilize it in real life driving environments.

Mini Cooper S · 08-25-2014, 07:55 PM

The 86 is always ahead or passing the BRZ

Jrryjms07 · 08-25-2014, 08:46 PM

^^ that's cuz Toyota 'paid' to have the gt86 be 1st. Lol

Mini Cooper S · 08-25-2014, 09:34 PM

^lol but the BRZ did pass it near the end. The vid froze on me then I watched the last minute.

stevesnj · 08-26-2014, 10:47 AM

What is interesting to me is I think with the advanced fuel injection they re thinking ahead. They could of used port injection. I think this is future proofing for something using such a good FI system. They (Toyota) have a long term plan i suspect. Time will tell.

paiceyfan · 08-26-2014, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mini Cooper S

^lol but the BRZ did pass it near the end. The vid froze on me then I watched the last minute.

It's not where you start...

Jyn · 08-26-2014, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by paiceyfan

It's not where you start...

it's where you finish #onherface

BRZnut · 08-26-2014, 09:09 PM

Funny how he talks about how great the engine is with the advance fuel injection. In my opinion the engine seems to be it's weakest link. Not because of the power, but because of the other issues...rough idle, odd sounds and more failures when boosted that I would like to see.

Tcoat · 08-26-2014, 10:02 PM

The rough idle was corrected before the 14s came out.
Odd sounds can be heard in many cars. It just seems worse with the reduced sound deading we have.
Failures when boosted happen. If you just slap a FI system on and don't beef up some of the other parts or get a crappy tune your in for trouble. That is why I am waiting until I can do a full, proper build for FI. These engines work just fine under the conditions they were designed for.
The forum can be especially disheartening as you hear many, MANY more horror stories then good news! How many times will somebody post (for no reason) "never had a single problem with my XXXX"? Don't know how many people are on here (that actually own/drive a twin) but will bet we total less then 10% of the cars sold. The sad part is that some of the less reputable "expert" websites just take what they read here and represent it as proof the car is no good!
In summary it is a $25K to $30K (depending on where you are) sports car not a $300K supercar.
Oh... and go check out the Porsche forum sometime if you think WE have problems!!!!!!!!

pantdino · 08-27-2014, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tcoat

The rough idle was corrected before the 14s came out.
Odd sounds can be heard in many cars. It just seems worse with the reduced sound deading we have.
Failures when boosted happen. If you just slap a FI system on and don't beef up some of the other parts or get a crappy tune your in for trouble. That is why I am waiting until I can do a full, proper build for FI. These engines work just fine under the conditions they were designed for.
The forum can be especially disheartening as you hear many, MANY more horror stories then good news! How many times will somebody post (for no reason) "never had a single problem with my XXXX"? Don't know how many people are on here (that actually own/drive a twin) but will bet we total less then 10% of the cars sold. The sad part is that some of the less reputable "expert" websites just take what they read here and represent it as proof the car is no good!
In summary it is a $25K to $30K (depending on where you are) sports car not a $300K supercar.
Oh... and go check out the Porsche forum sometime if you think WE have problems!!!!!!!!

google "Porsche intermediate shaft bearing failure" sometime when you want to be glad you didn't buy one.

08-25-2014, 06:45 PM	#2
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Jrryjms07 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Madison, WI Posts: 279 Thanks: 1,378 Thanked 125 Times in 67 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^^ that's cuz Toyota 'paid' to have the gt86 be 1st. Lol

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Mini Cooper S Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: '16 MX5 rip '14 FRS Location: Oakland ca Posts: 112 Thanks: 158 Thanked 59 Times in 38 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	^lol but the BRZ did pass it near the end. The vid froze on me then I watched the last minute.

08-26-2014, 10:47 AM	#6
stevesnj Senior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2016 FR-S Oceanic Blue Location: Southern NJ Posts: 2,958 Thanks: 2,158 Thanked 1,601 Times in 923 Posts Mentioned: 30 Post(s) Tagged: 2 Thread(s)	What is interesting to me is I think with the advanced fuel injection they re thinking ahead. They could of used port injection. I think this is future proofing for something using such a good FI system. They (Toyota) have a long term plan i suspect. Time will tell.

08-26-2014, 09:09 PM	#9
BRZnut Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Drives: BRZ DGM Limited Location: USA Posts: 1,237 Thanks: 5 Thanked 431 Times in 250 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Funny how he talks about how great the engine is with the advance fuel injection. In my opinion the engine seems to be it's weakest link. Not because of the power, but because of the other issues...rough idle, odd sounds and more failures when boosted that I would like to see.

08-26-2014, 10:02 PM	#10
Tcoat Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: 2020 Hakone Location: London, Ont Posts: 69,841 Thanks: 61,656 Thanked 108,295 Times in 46,456 Posts Mentioned: 2499 Post(s) Tagged: 50 Thread(s)	The rough idle was corrected before the 14s came out. Odd sounds can be heard in many cars. It just seems worse with the reduced sound deading we have. Failures when boosted happen. If you just slap a FI system on and don't beef up some of the other parts or get a crappy tune your in for trouble. That is why I am waiting until I can do a full, proper build for FI. These engines work just fine under the conditions they were designed for. The forum can be especially disheartening as you hear many, MANY more horror stories then good news! How many times will somebody post (for no reason) "never had a single problem with my XXXX"? Don't know how many people are on here (that actually own/drive a twin) but will bet we total less then 10% of the cars sold. The sad part is that some of the less reputable "expert" websites just take what they read here and represent it as proof the car is no good! In summary it is a $25K to $30K (depending on where you are) sports car not a $300K supercar. Oh... and go check out the Porsche forum sometime if you think WE have problems!!!!!!!!

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