If all else was equal, would you buy an electric? - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

HunterGreene · 08-14-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Why, in your opinion, is it a POS? Have you driven one?

Well, I can kinda agree, for the price GM was charging for the car ($40k US). For $40k, you can get a pretty sweet car that has better all-around performance. The Volt's performance is comparable to a V6 Camry (except for milage, obviously). Even with tax breaks, and savings (you still need to fill it with gas occasionally) the price makes this car a little unfeasible. If GM had sold it for $10k less, it would have been a huge hit.

Atropine · 08-14-2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Why, in your opinion, is it a POS? Have you driven one?

I guess the whole Government Motors thing...bail out...they caught on fire...ugly as sin...

I do understand that rarely is new technology instantly profitable. I view the Volt as a bad car...but I do think it was necessary, because it sounds like the new Volt is going to be better.

Also it seems the price of them has come down a bit.

Really when compared to the Tesla, I just think the Teslas are much better cars. Then again, they cost 4 times as much.

BTW, I have not driven one, but I have ridden in one and it wasn't a bad ride or anything. It just felt cheap on the inside. Though your comment has made me hit the Chevy website and they do look improved.

Xti · 08-14-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by f0rge

The lack of engine noise is what would get me. I love revving out a car.

The other problem is the quality of the gas-powered counterparts. A model S is a sweet ride but I'm not sure I'd ever take one over an M5.

Totally agreed. Nothing beat a MT and high rev song

Dadhawk · 08-14-2014, 11:25 AM

I voted yes but like @Jaden and others said, I'm taking "everything being equal" to be exactly that, including:

Acquisition price
Range
Capability
Refueling time, frequency, availability

I had the Volt on my short list when I bought the FR-S, but it fell short on the price. Chevy did the technology right (for me and my needs), the car itself was a bit lackluster. If there have been a Camaro-Volt or a Corvette-Volt, and the price was reasonable, I might have considered it more. The real win would have been a SuburbaVolt, imagine the improved fuel economy.

Overall though, I'd much prefer a fuel cell/hydrogen car to an electric.

I have zero interest in a Tesla. The company just rubs me the wrong way. Pure personal opinion, and not really worth debating.

Rampage · 08-14-2014, 05:02 PM

Hypothetically, all things at least equal then absolutely yes.

Rampage · 08-14-2014, 05:29 PM

Double post

n2oinferno · 08-14-2014, 06:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Atropine

I guess the whole Government Motors thing...bail out...they caught on fire...ugly as sin...

I do understand that rarely is new technology instantly profitable. I view the Volt as a bad car...but I do think it was necessary, because it sounds like the new Volt is going to be better.

Also it seems the price of them has come down a bit.

Really when compared to the Tesla, I just think the Teslas are much better cars. Then again, they cost 4 times as much.

BTW, I have not driven one, but I have ridden in one and it wasn't a bad ride or anything. It just felt cheap on the inside. Though your comment has made me hit the Chevy website and they do look improved.

Fair enough. I didn't mean it in a bad way, to clarify. I have just noticed that opinion on them seems pretty black or white. I like the idea but I can't say one way or another whether I think it's a "good car" or not. I haven't gotten to drive or ride in one, but it's on my list of things to do in the near future.

Roadster19 · 08-14-2014, 08:18 PM

Ive been looking to convert an frs to electric because how bad ev's usually look lmao Tesla is too expensive imo

GreenMonster · 08-15-2014, 02:58 PM

Yep. Just waiting for the Tesla Model III.

HunterGreene · 08-15-2014, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenMonster

Yep. Just waiting for the Tesla Model III.

Given that Tesla released all their patents, it may not be long before you start seeing affordable EVs showing up under the US Big Three and other major automakers.

rice_classic · 08-15-2014, 09:15 PM

No and for a couple reasons:

1: They're not equal.
2: See #1

landokalriz · 08-16-2014, 11:57 AM

Absolutely, I'm crossing fingers on model 3, can't afford model s. Just hope they install multiple super chargers in Calgary and I'll be happy

ihaskrayon · 08-16-2014, 02:02 PM

When I turn my car on and hear the exhaust roar during a cold start, I get goosebumps.

You can't get that feeling with an electirc motor

SillySaxon · 04-21-2015, 01:26 PM

For what it's worth, the Opel/Vauxhall Ampera looks way cooler than the Volt (same car, different face)

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08-14-2014, 11:25 AM	#18
Dadhawk 1st86 Driver! Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: '13 FR-S (#3 of 1st 86) Location: Powder Springs, GA Posts: 19,827 Thanks: 38,867 Thanked 24,965 Times in 11,387 Posts Mentioned: 182 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	I voted yes but like @Jaden and others said, I'm taking "everything being equal" to be exactly that, including: Acquisition price Range Capability Refueling time, frequency, availability I had the Volt on my short list when I bought the FR-S, but it fell short on the price. Chevy did the technology right (for me and my needs), the car itself was a bit lackluster. If there have been a Camaro-Volt or a Corvette-Volt, and the price was reasonable, I might have considered it more. The real win would have been a SuburbaVolt, imagine the improved fuel economy. Overall though, I'd much prefer a fuel cell/hydrogen car to an electric. I have zero interest in a Tesla. The company just rubs me the wrong way. Pure personal opinion, and not really worth debating. __________________ Olivia 05/03/2012 - 01/06/2024. 231,146 glorious miles. Visit my Owner's Journal where I wax philosophic on all things FR-S Post your 86 or see others in front of a(n) (in)famous landmark. What fits in your 86? Show us the "Junk In Your Trunk". Last edited by Dadhawk; 08-14-2014 at 08:29 PM.

08-14-2014, 05:02 PM	#19
Rampage Senior Member/Old Fanboi Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2000 2ZZ-GE MR2 Spyder HT Location: Back home in Ohio now Posts: 2,446 Thanks: 1,931 Thanked 2,014 Times in 915 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Hypothetically, all things at least equal then absolutely yes. __________________ So many modders have more cents than sense!

08-14-2014, 05:29 PM	#20
Rampage Senior Member/Old Fanboi Join Date: Nov 2011 Drives: 2000 2ZZ-GE MR2 Spyder HT Location: Back home in Ohio now Posts: 2,446 Thanks: 1,931 Thanked 2,014 Times in 915 Posts Mentioned: 16 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Double post __________________ So many modders have more cents than sense!

08-15-2014, 09:15 PM	#25
rice_classic Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: Nevermorange FRS Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 4,160 Thanks: 755 Thanked 4,200 Times in 1,803 Posts Mentioned: 77 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	No and for a couple reasons: 1: They're not equal. 2: See #1 __________________ SCCA T4 - FRS

08-14-2014, 08:18 PM	#22
Roadster19 Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Drives: Honda accord v6 coupe Location: Canada Posts: 52 Thanks: 87 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ive been looking to convert an frs to electric because how bad ev's usually look lmao Tesla is too expensive imo

08-15-2014, 02:58 PM	#23
GreenMonster Just doing research Join Date: Mar 2014 Drives: 03 Acura CLS 6MT Location: Southeastern MA Posts: 331 Thanks: 91 Thanked 97 Times in 77 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Yep. Just waiting for the Tesla Model III.

08-16-2014, 11:57 AM	#26
landokalriz Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Location: Calgary Posts: 4 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Absolutely, I'm crossing fingers on model 3, can't afford model s. Just hope they install multiple super chargers in Calgary and I'll be happy

08-16-2014, 02:02 PM	#27
ihaskrayon The Comedian Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: SWP BRZ Limited Location: Irvine Posts: 969 Thanks: 94 Thanked 642 Times in 266 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	When I turn my car on and hear the exhaust roar during a cold start, I get goosebumps. You can't get that feeling with an electirc motor

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