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Old 01-10-2012, 05:03 PM   #43
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I don't think this design works I like the idea but if they were trying to make a smaller Camaro I think it's just doesn't work. But I wouldnt say it's totally bad by its falls on the " at least it's something" and I don't think that's good enough. This car would be forgotten the moment something similar come out for a lower price and does the same thing.
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Old 01-10-2012, 06:14 PM   #44
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I don't like camero and I see a lot of camero in it.
The rear end of the roof line is too considerate to the rear passengers headroom. And the taillights are just ugly and the tailpipes mid center won't work for me either. just plain awkward.
I like the overall dimensions for a short front and rear overhang over to wheels unlike the FRS. And 40 mpg fuel economy is very attractive.
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I like it.... a trifecta tune would have the FRS/BRZ scurring for a STI swap and better mpg to boot...but it does depend on the weight that Chevy brings it in at...the FRS/BRZ looks better.Im thinking if Chevy brings it..the looks may change a bit to more consumers liking,if the FRS/BRZ doesent have boost by the time this thing drops i'll be in line for the Chevy...
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I like it.... a trifecta tune would have the FRS/BRZ scurring for a STI swap and better mpg to boot...but it does depend on the weight that Chevy brings it in at...the FRS/BRZ looks better.Im thinking if Chevy brings it..the looks may change a bit to more consumers liking,if the FRS/BRZ doesent have boost by the time this thing drops i'll be in line for the Chevy...
Thanks for bringing this back up, I'd forgotten about it.

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The 140 needs to be RWD and the 130 needs to be scrapped.
I agree on that. The front end of the 140 would need some changes but the 130 looks too much like a Bimmer. Plus with RWD, it needs to be a hatchback to make up for the lack of interior space.

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it's profile reminds me a lot of a 1-series...low body lines and a greenhouse that pops up out of no where.

Anyway, seems to me, that for the target audience that they are too focused on MPG and not fun. It may have a 150 lb-ft tq curver from a low RPM to redline but we all know that to the public that hp sells a car.

It'll be interested to see the progression of the project. I foresee the FA16DIT in the BRZ/FRS putting this Chevy to bed.
I wouldn't be surprised at all if the younger crowd(since this probably won't be out for awhile) liked this because of the low HP. Remember the generation that grew up in the last 10 years is already looking to be a lot more practical than the previous generations. The generation that is starting to drive now is going to be paying more for their own stuff and when they start buying new cars they'll be looking for more practical ones.

Granted it does have a turbo, but that doesn't mean it has to have a lot of HP. And it's got to be RWD, not just for the driving aspect but longitude I4s are massively easier to work on than a transverse 4 or a v8. But that's just my humble opinion.
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:26 AM   #47
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Here's an idea: a V6-Version of an LSX Engine! It's brilliant!!
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Thanks for bringing this back up, I'd forgotten about it.



I agree on that. The front end of the 140 would need some changes but the 130 looks too much like a Bimmer. Plus with RWD, it needs to be a hatchback to make up for the lack of interior space.



I wouldn't be surprised at all if the younger crowd(since this probably won't be out for awhile) liked this because of the low HP. Remember the generation that grew up in the last 10 years is already looking to be a lot more practical than the previous generations. The generation that is starting to drive now is going to be paying more for their own stuff and when they start buying new cars they'll be looking for more practical ones.

Granted it does have a turbo, but that doesn't mean it has to have a lot of HP. And it's got to be RWD, not just for the driving aspect but longitude I4s are massively easier to work on than a transverse 4 or a v8. But that's just my humble opinion.
Trust me a trifecta tune for 400 bucks would give it about 65HP and 100ft lbs of torque..the 1.4t Ecotec is a very tunable motor with a solid aftermarket with no DI fuel pumps to get in the way...I have the same motor in my Sonic LTZ very nice lil powerplant and it will be getting about 40 mpg on the hwy...
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Trust me a trifecta tune for 400 bucks would give it about 65HP and 100ft lbs of torque..the 1.4t Ecotec is a very tunable motor with a solid aftermarket with no DI fuel pumps to get in the way...I have the same motor in my Sonic LTZ very nice lil powerplant and it will be getting about 40 mpg on the hwy...
Oh sweet. I didn't cover that part because I'm not too familiar with Chevy engines. I'd still rather have DI, but with port injection.
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Could General Motors build an all-new compact sports car for under $30,000, with a high-output 4-cylinder engine and rear-wheel drive? According to a report in the latest issue of Australia's Wheels Magazine, the answer so far is a secretive "yes."

The rendering is an Aussified version of the Chevrolet Code 130R concept first shown last January at the North American International Auto Show. Wheels is calling it the modern-day Holden Torana, the sporty Australian compact built from 1967 to 1980 that led racing driver Peter Brock to numerous victories in the '70s.

The original Torana was attractive, quick, and affordable -- a winning formula that Hyundai revamped on the 2009 Genesis Coupe and which the 2013 Subaru BRZ and Scion FR-S are now trumping. For younger enthusiasts who aren't dazzled by larger Camaros and Mustangs, those Asian coupes are the only cars that deliver big performance in a tight, budget-friendly package.

While the Wheels report names no direct sources, the magazine quotes Michael Simcoe, GM's chief designer outside North America, as saying a production Torana "makes sense" given the history of Australian muscle cars.

Annalisa Bluhm, a Chevrolet spokeswoman, told Exhaust Notes that while the Code 130R was not yet planned for production, "it would fit pretty perfectly" against the BRZ and FR-S. So far, Bluhm said the concept has been a hit among Millennials -- the under-35 set targeted by the Japanese coupes.

"We thought the 130R would really resonate because it's hot. It's a racer," she said.

With the short, stubby styling of a BMW 1-Series, the Code 130R and Torana could be built from GM's new Alpha platform, a smaller rear-wheel-drive chassis now underpinning the Cadillac ATS. In January, GM said it could sell a production 130R in the "low $20,000s" with a 1.4-liter turbocharged four-cylinder delivering 150 horsepower and 40 mpg.

Holden, GM's Australian division, has catered to speed-seeking Australians for decades. While much of Holden's lineup -- like the Volt and Barina Spark -- are rebadged Chevrolets, the brand retains a very distinct flavor, different from Detroit. (Case in point: the Maloo R8, an El Camino hotrod stuffed with a Corvette V8 that runs on liquid propane.) The 2009 Pontiac G8, a rear-wheel-drive sedan praised for its sharp handling, was entirely designed by Holden and is still sold (and raced) down under as the Commodore.

Given the initial fervor from the BRZ, we're betting GM will be watching this performance segment very closely as it tries to cast Chevrolet as a youth-friendly, premium small car brand.




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150hp though.....

Cmon, people ragging the FT86 with its 200hp, how's this not being stomped on for only having 150?

Oh and it needs to be 15000 dollars otherwise its overpriced......
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^ Have to consider that with a 1.4T it will most likely have just as much HP and much more tq with a few bolt ons and a tune. Turbo will always have more tunning options than a NA high strung engine. Just depends how friendly the FA20 is to a turbo. Also to note, the significantly better mpg for those who commute a lot/care about that.

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I read about this a while back, the concept is just that a concept for people to start with Chevy wants feedback wants to change the car to fit a younger crowd. In the article I read Chevy sent a survey out to high school students as to what kind of Chevy car they would want to see. Those kids didnt even know that Chevy made cars or that the Corvette was a Chevy.
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I read about this a while back, the concept is just that a concept for people to start with Chevy wants feedback wants to change the car to fit a younger crowd. In the article I read Chevy sent a survey out to high school students as to what kind of Chevy car they would want to see. Those kids didnt even know that Chevy made cars or that the Corvette was a Chevy.
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150hp though.....

Cmon, people ragging the FT86 with its 200hp, how's this not being stomped on for only having 150?

Oh and it needs to be 15000 dollars otherwise its overpriced......
150 is enough for me. But I didn't like the 130R body, the 140S was much nicer and more practical IMHO.

$20k is the typical price for a mid range FWD compact(which is pretty upscale these days) so a decent RWD compact car would be dirt cheap at $20k. How long has it been since you went car shopping?

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I read about this a while back, the concept is just that a concept for people to start with Chevy wants feedback wants to change the car to fit a younger crowd. In the article I read Chevy sent a survey out to high school students as to what kind of Chevy car they would want to see. Those kids didnt even know that Chevy made cars or that the Corvette was a Chevy.
We all started out that way, car enthusiasts are already rare and now kids are having less interest in cars. Maybe that will change with the next gen, maybenot.

Even I knew who made the Corvette before I bought my first car but I couldn't tell the difference between a Honda and a Bimmer until much later. That rear end on that one generation Honda civic always throws me off how "BMW" it looks.
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