GT86 vs Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.6 R

[R.S-HawK]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I disagree slightly, they could have made up some weight by stripping down creature comforts (now I am out on a limb by myself, as the masses want creature comforts)....if they somehow made the interior smaller, ditched some of the options inside they could have pulled maybe 300-400lbs out? Then the car would have been closer to the top of my list.

With some fat tires and quad exhaust, the back of a Gen Coupe is just mean looking. And I know one of those would annihilate my car without even a downshift.

Just wish they want smaller/racecar instead of bigger/GT car.

Honestly, nitpicking to that extent only points to the fact that the Genesis isn't what you want in car.

If anything, a 370Z is exactly what you're asking for.

[thill]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

My previous negative comment about the Twins not being a Sports Car is BS. It's the ESSENCE of a Sports Car. Just because you're not setting lap records doesn't define a Sports Car. I consider the Miata a Sports Car as well, one of the best in the business and it's slower than the 86. The Gen Coupe is NOT a Sports Car, it's a Grand Touring machine, and for the money, I beg you to find a better one for the money. I've tried. I couldn't.

Edit: the R-Spec 13'+ really tries to be a Sports Car. Maybe it is but from my first hand experience, the chassis, plus everything else, no matter what they put on it. Brembos, sport suspension, etc. it's just too much...mush. It's still a great car but for a "track" ready Sports Car, it needs a more rigid chassis, much better tires, brakes, etc. IMHO the best version of the Gen Coupe is the '13+ GT Version. It doesn't try to do anything it shouldn't. A moderately small, coupe, with lots of comfort, tech, great ride, LOADS of highway power and pretty good steering. Comparing that to an 86 is bonkers.

Very spot on. Totally agree.

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Timmy_Jones

I disagree slightly, they could have made up some weight by stripping down creature comforts (now I am out on a limb by myself, as the masses want creature comforts)....if they somehow made the interior smaller, ditched some of the options inside they could have pulled maybe 300-400lbs out? Then the car would have been closer to the top of my list.

With some fat tires and quad exhaust, the back of a Gen Coupe is just mean looking. And I know one of those would annihilate my car without even a downshift.

Just wish they want smaller/racecar instead of bigger/GT car.

how are creature comforts going to add up to 300-400 lbs?

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by fatoni

how are creature comforts going to add up to 300-400 lbs?

You forgot about the three hookers in the back.

[Cliu91]

Originally Posted by Boxer486

You forgot about the three hookers in the back.

Gotta go w/ the hooker option cause no girl is going to want to take ride in that fat pig of a car.

[Twin4Life]

Originally Posted by Cliu91

Gotta go w/ the hooker option cause no girl is going to want to take ride in that fat pig of a car.

And your plastic gutless wonder is a better option?

[Cliu91]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

And your plastic gutless wonder is a better option?

You're seriously underestimating the power of the space invaders and faux CF.

[Twin4Life]

Originally Posted by Cliu91

You're seriously underestimating the power of the space invaders and faux CF.

The kimchi is strong in you young Skywalker.

[Frishkorn]

Can we please start banning individuals who no longer own this car from the forums? They really have no place here other then to be trolls.

[Twin4Life]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

Can we please start banning individuals who no longer own this car from the forums? They really have no place here other then to be trolls.

Just remove other vehicle section, bask in the glow of the 86 and stick your head in a hole. Brilliant.

[Frishkorn]

Originally Posted by Twin4Life

Just remove other vehicle section, bask in the glow of the 86 and stick your head in a hole. Brilliant.

I just don't know why you are here other then to be a jerk. This isn't a sports car forum, it's a forum FOR the 86. If you don't like the car then WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Funny you picked the username Twin4Life and then abandoned the car after only what a year?

[MightyMeeple]

Originally Posted by R.S-HawK

I just swapped from an FR-S to a Genesis Coupe 3.8 R-Spec about three weeks ago. Owned the FR-S for almost a year, but have not owned the Genesis Coupe long enough to make good judgement of the driving experience it provides, therefore will keep it very short.

• Yes, the Gen Coupe R 3.8 is far more powerful. If you really want to get into it, it all comes down to the figures, 348hp vs 197hp. 297ft-lb torque vs 151ft-lb of torque. 2.7 second difference to 60.

In the handling department however, there is (literally) no comparison.

• The FR-S handles like a dream. It was built to be more nimble. It is far smaller, and far lighter. The FR-S is a driver's car. Everyone here knows that, and therefore I'll leave it at that.

• The Genesis Coupe, on the other hand, is a Grand Touring Coupe. It is a big car, but it handles well. The 3.8L V6 is fantastic. The suspension is far softer (even in the R-Spec), and in exchange you're given a very good but rather disconnected ride that is complemented with a excellent interior. Putting it through a corner is not as effortless nor as entertaining as the FR-S, and because of the difference in suspension tuning and weight, you don't get the same feel for the speed of the vehicle.

With that being said, the reality here is that outside of their price, these two cars are not direct competitors.

• The FR-S is light, nimble and has a stiff suspension. Infinitely entertaining to drive. Far more like the S2000 and Miata than the Genesis Coupe.

• The Genesis Coupe is a Grand Tourer, with the R-Spec trim being an attempt to make it more of a driver's car (Six Speed Manual, Race-Tuned Suspension, LSD, Brembo Brakes, 19" Wheels). It competes with everyone, and no one. You certainly get a very complete package for the price though, one that's more in line to compete with the likes of the Infiniti G37 (or the new Q50) and BMW 435i.

Which one is better? You're comparing apples to oranges. Regardless, the point I try to make every time I get into argument about two or more different vehicles: It's all a matter of personal needs and/or preferences.

If I had the chance to, I'd own both.

RS.

Wow, logic and objectivity in one post. Well done sir!

[Twin4Life]

Im hopeful, at some point, KIA does make their 300HP 2500 pound Stinger and Toybaru has an STi version of the Twins (280-ish HP). AND Nissan making the Z35 platform sub 3000 pounds, maybe hybrid with 400hp+? AND Hyundai finally putting the 8 cylinder in the Coupe!! Now thats a fine world to live in.

[R.S-HawK]

Originally Posted by Frishkorn

I just don't know why you are here other then to be a jerk. This isn't a sports car forum, it's a forum FOR the 86. If you don't like the car then WHY ARE YOU HERE?

Funny you picked the username Twin4Life and then abandoned the car after only what a year?

No one here is being a jerk, except you asking previous owners to be banned because you don't agree with our opinions.