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Upper Class Detailing · 07-11-2014, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by grodenglaive

Sorry, I can't let that go...
Dr. G's statement is not technically correct either. None of the "regular" car wash products contain soap, they use detergents - it is not the same thing. He also states that there is nothing in them that removes dirt, which is also incorrect and a ridiculous statement. How else would we have been able to clean our cars (or ourselves) for the last 100+ years? </rant>

Don't get me wrong, I'm not refuting the effectiveness of ONR. It may be the greatest product ever, I haven't tried it.

I think his (Dr. G's) statement is correct. And you are right......cheap soaps (usually OTC) contain detergents (thus low price). As a result they may remove wax/paint sealant after a few washes. More expensive soaps contain cleaning agents that are gentle and usually derived from more expensive raw materials (thus higher price).

Also soaps don't remove dirt, a wash mitt does. Soaps' purpose is not to remove dirt, its purpose is to act as lubricant b/w paint and wash media (think of wet shaving, especially Glycerin) and in some cases encapsulate dirt. The only soaps that remove dirt w/o touching are low pH or high pH (think of touchless car washes).

I think what he's trying to say is, soap doesn't release dirt particles as good as ONR.

AznKirby · 07-11-2014, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Upper Class Detailing

I think his (Dr. G's) statement is correct. And you are right......cheap soaps (usually OTC) contain detergents (thus low price). As a result they may remove wax/paint sealant after a few washes. More expensive soaps contain cleaning agents that are gentle and usually derived from more expensive raw materials (thus higher price).

Also soaps don't remove dirt, a wash mitt does. Soaps' purpose is not to remove dirt, its purpose is to act as lubricant b/w paint and wash media (think of wet shaving, especially Glycerin) and in some cases encapsulate dirt. The only soaps that remove dirt w/o touching are low pH or high pH (think of touchless car washes).

I think what he's trying to say is, soap doesn't release dirt particles as good as ONR.

I thought the whole point of touchless car washes was that the pressure put on by the hoses was so strong that it imitates the physical act of scrubbin and didn't require a mitt to rub on it?

Simon99 · 07-11-2014, 01:39 AM

@brz2013 I hope you'll dance like that tonight !

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qHg7S8q4Lc4"]Guy Dances To Ice Cream Truck Jingle - YouTube[/ame]

FRS_Ken · 07-11-2014, 08:11 AM

Busted my front lip yet again

JDP Engineering website seems gone - might have to got a different route
I was up too early swapping cars and swung too wide and hit the freaking curb across the street

Grrrrr

Slick · 07-11-2014, 08:27 AM

Sucks Ken, gonna piece it back together or just get a different type?

Maybe you should buy a few spares next time.

HeadBanger · 07-11-2014, 08:43 AM

Go to CT and pick up one of those foam stick on ones. Wont break again! lol

Slick · 07-11-2014, 08:46 AM

Ken, curb feelers!

Anyone old enough to know what that is?

jvincent · 07-11-2014, 08:53 AM

Do they still make those?

OrangeGuitar · 07-11-2014, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Ken, curb feelers!

Anyone old enough to know what that is?

And matching TV antenna on the trunk

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Slick · 07-11-2014, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jvincent

Do they still make those?

Sure do.
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/Unknown-70203-Curb-Feelers/dp/B001DQCDAA"]Amazon.com: Curb Feelers: Automotive[/ame]
Everyone chip in a buck each for Ken? Lol

dolo · 07-11-2014, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Slick

Sure do.
Amazon.com: Curb Feelers: Automotive
Everyone chip in a buck each for Ken? Lol

Should do a donation jar tonight for him haha I'm sure ya'll can raise enough money :P

AznKirby · 07-11-2014, 10:15 AM

Haha. Sorry to hear that, Ken!
Get an Airrex kit, problem solved. LOL

Pbrown · 07-11-2014, 10:31 AM

[QUOTE=FRS_Ken;1840791]Busted my front lip yet again

.
Maybe vodka and tonic is not a good breakfast.

dolo · 07-11-2014, 10:33 AM

Update on repairs: Quoted at a little over 9 grand to fix everything. Almost a full suspension rebuild on front and back left side + wheels + front bumper repairs.

Lesson learned: 45km/h + 6"+ curb don't mix, let the person hit you so they are at fault.

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HeadBanger Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: '14 Subaru BRZ Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 979 Thanks: 204 Thanked 409 Times in 260 Posts Mentioned: 21 Post(s)	Go to CT and pick up one of those foam stick on ones. Wont break again! lol __________________ Life's too short to drive a boring car

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AznKirby Are you 20/20? Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: Hopes and dreams Location: Montreal, Canada Posts: 1,912 Thanks: 715 Thanked 1,310 Times in 703 Posts Mentioned: 36 Post(s)	Haha. Sorry to hear that, Ken! Get an Airrex kit, problem solved. LOL __________________ 2014 FR-S Monogram 2005 Acura RSX Type-S IG: @MonKehC

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Pbrown Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FRS Raven Location: Ottawa Posts: 1,646 Thanks: 1,271 Thanked 1,322 Times in 658 Posts Mentioned: 106 Post(s)	just saying [QUOTE=FRS_Ken;1840791]Busted my front lip yet again . Maybe vodka and tonic is not a good breakfast.

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dolo Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Drives: '13 10 Series FRS Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 158 Thanks: 57 Thanked 60 Times in 37 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s)	Update on repairs: Quoted at a little over 9 grand to fix everything. Almost a full suspension rebuild on front and back left side + wheels + front bumper repairs. Lesson learned: 45km/h + 6"+ curb don't mix, let the person hit you so they are at fault. __________________ -Evan

07-11-2014, 08:27 AM	#4555
Slick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: FR-S Firestorm 6MT Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,881 Thanks: 345 Thanked 1,389 Times in 628 Posts Mentioned: 137 Post(s)	Sucks Ken, gonna piece it back together or just get a different type? Maybe you should buy a few spares next time.

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Slick Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Drives: FR-S Firestorm 6MT Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 1,881 Thanks: 345 Thanked 1,389 Times in 628 Posts Mentioned: 137 Post(s)	Ken, curb feelers! Anyone old enough to know what that is?

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