Delicious Tuning - Q&A EcuTeK ProECU Tuning and Maps

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by fooddude

Only 169whp?? And on an easier dynojet?

I thought this 91oct stage2 tune was supposed to be +200whp with headers/drop-in/etc.?

Would love to see other 3rd party dynos using the Stage2 91oct tune to see if the 200whp claim with headers/filter is true/real or not.

You are correct the numbers are low for a very good reason, it is nearly 100 degrees and the humidity is nearly 50%. These are by far from ideal conditions as one would expect and too boot there is is absolutely no correction factors used, where as most tuners on these forums use STD correction as it reads the highest. All this equates to a lot lower power number.

Here is an example when you drive your stock FRS/BRZ/86 on a cool night when it is about 60 degrees outside how does your vehicle feel? Probably pretty lively, responsive and some what powerful. Now take your vehicle place it in hot humid weather and make sure the ambient temperature outside is nearly 100 degrees, how does your car feel now? Probably slow in comparison, well that is the difference we see in the dyno chart.

Though it would be interesting to see what a stock car makes on this dyno in similar conditions.

Cheers,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by malave7567

1. Good for you to remind me, I do have an o2 extension on my rear o2 sensor. It kept the P0420 off while driving around town before I got tuned. I still haven't gotten my car back into the air to take it off.
2. Running Borla UEL (later batch, I examined everything in person before buying and looked fine; that's the good thing about having shops to buy new things in store instead of shipping), so the o2 sensors are in the stock locations, but obviously there is no cat there now.
3. Stock intake, Perrin Drop-In Filter
4. See number 2.

I know it's very hot and humid, but that's the average Houston summer so it's a good base mark for what I should expect in the summer heat. I definitely want to get back on a dyno once late fall/early winter is here and highs are in the 60s-70s, and humidity falls off.

Rear O2 extensions, guaranteed to throw that check engine light with our tune. I would get that removed and I am positive you will see the code never show up again.

Could you send us the digital version of the dyno chart, we would like to check out the data in detail.

Thanks,
William Knose
Delicious Tuning

[fooddude]

31whp difference though from a hot day? Idk about that lol. Maybe 5-10whp at most.

Maybe something is really wonky with their dyno. I would never post/get/give dynos from that shop if the difference is that bad and/or is uncorrected (it'll just cause massive confusion). Those numbers seem even worse than the mustang dynos. It looks exactly like a stock dyno run.

Something's not right here. And being only mid 90deg isn't the reason. 48% humidity is average humidity too. It's not like it's 100-110 degrees outside. The person could've always got the dyno in the evening too.

I still want to see better 3rd party dynos of the Stage2 91oct tune tho. I'm hoping it won't be as bad as that one though, and it'll actually be close to 200whp.


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[DeliciousTuning]

We checked into it a little deeper, and the customer mistakenly flashed the stock file. We send both stock and our tuned file on the CD, and unfortunately the customer flashed the stock file over the stock file. That is why his runs are literally identical. Discovered this after reviewing which file he actually flashed from the CD. It's no big deal, but definitely the reason it doesn't look right.

*In addition to it being over 100 degrees and humid outside with no correction.*

Sincerely,


Delicious Tuning

[DeliciousTuning]

In addition, may I remind everyone that 200whp on a Dynojet can either be obtained with our E85 tune on a completely stock vehicle, or on pump gas on a vehicle that has a QUALITY header. A Borla UEL offering does not count, and I have stated this a few times. You get what you pay for, and there are very few headers out there that make the grade. There's a solid reason Michele Abbate's car is running the JDL EL offering. You will absolutely not be able to reach 200whp on 91 or 93 octane without a high quality header, and again, we have found the Borla UEL offering to be only marginally better than factory.

Sincerely,

Delicious Tuning

[fooddude]

Ahh...that explains it! ...the low/stock numbers and also CEL.. lol

[fooddude]

Btw...you think the new/upcoming Tomei headers are sufficient enough? ..they look pretty smooth and good/decent quality and also offer both EL and UEL.

[fooddude]

I guess it would be best to just buy my own cable, instead of borrowing/renting it for a 1 time use ...just in case and also since it looks like there might be new revisions in the future.

Once you buy the Stage2 tune...are the future revisions/versions/firmware-updates free?

[malave7567]

so my map allows me to switch between maps 1-4, and has RaceRom features active, but was a stock map? I guess I'm a bit confused on that one. PM sent on sending you the dyno run files though.

[SHOspazz92]

A complete n00b question. But if you have the time to answer it, than GREAT!

My car is 100% stock with Zero modifications. So should I want a tune , I would have to buy the hardware from you guys,then pay for the maps. Cool. So besides paying for the Hardware and the Maps, What does purchasing the optional license grant me?

However, should there be any updates that specific map, would I have to pay for those updates as well? Or is paying extra for updates based on modifying your base map (No matter what revision it is in) to MY specific needs? Just curious as this may be an option I'd like to pursue here shortly.

-Sam

[steve99]

Originally Posted by SHOspazz92

A complete n00b question. But if you have the time to answer it, than GREAT!

My car is 100% stock with Zero modifications. So should I want a tune , I would have to buy the hardware from you guys,then pay for the maps. Cool. So besides paying for the Hardware and the Maps, What does purchasing the optional license grant me?

However, should there be any updates that specific map, would I have to pay for those updates as well? Or is paying extra for updates based on modifying your base map (No matter what revision it is in) to MY specific needs? Just curious as this may be an option I'd like to pursue here shortly.

-Sam

if you have not seen this probably worth a read

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29340

[SHOspazz92]

Originally Posted by steve99

if you have not seen this probably worth a read

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=29340

Thanks, but the information regarding ECUTek in that thread was pretty generic. I'm used to being able to actually tune the car myself with various open source type stuff. I'm not expecting to be able to do that with ECUTek but I just want to know EXACTLY what I'm in for should I decide to go with ECUTek route.

[steve99]

Originally Posted by SHOspazz92

Thanks, but the information regarding ECUTek in that thread was pretty generic. I'm used to being able to actually tune the car myself with various open source type stuff. I'm not expecting to be able to do that with ECUTek but I just want to know EXACTLY what I'm in for should I decide to go with ECUTek route.

you can certianly tune/tweek yours or existing tunes with ecutek

[DeliciousTuning]

Originally Posted by fooddude

I guess it would be best to just buy my own cable, instead of borrowing/renting it for a 1 time use ...just in case and also since it looks like there might be new revisions in the future.

Once you buy the Stage2 tune...are the future revisions/versions/firmware-updates free?

Hard to say on Tomei's without testing them first. I would hate to make a statement about something being great without being to back that with hard data. As far as revisions, if and when we release a general revision to a tune that is applicable to what you purchased, example an update to our NA tunes if you purchased an NA tune, that will be provided free of charge. It is the customization that we charge for.

Sincerely,

Delicious Tuning