Subaru Announces US Pricing for 2013 BRZ at $25,495

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

It's a dog off boost, don't lie.

ECU tune took care of that for me, spools around 2500RPMs now. Not sure what they were smoking when they did the stock tune, it's a night and day difference in driveability without any other mods. I used to have to downshift to 4th to pass but now the torque is there in 5th.

[SoCal_86]

Originally Posted by Giccin

And FRS people moving into the BRZ begins...

I might be one of them

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by Giccin :

And FRS people moving into the BRZ begins..

My bet: the tide will largely go the other way, with the very constrained supply of the BRZ and the huge price "market adjustments" coming soon to your friendly local Subie dealer.

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Originally Posted by Giccin :
My bet: the tide will largely go the other way, with the very constrained supply of the BRZ and the huge price "market adjustments" coming soon to your friendly local Subie dealer.

I don't know where this myth started. Everyone on this forum whose dealer has tried to charge a markup has switched to another dealer which was willing to sell at msrp. I don't know of a single person so far who has agreed to pay over msrp. A few dealers are trying to charge markups but I think they'll be left high and dry when their customers can just go somewhere else get it for less. Those dealers are hoping to cash in on huge wait times which I don't think will ever materialize. All the dealers around here anyways are not even close to selling out their allocations.

[NeoDiNardo]

In fact the one dealer I'm thinking about per ordering the premium just changed their tune on price from over MSRP to at MSRP.

[NeoDiNardo]

Gonna order the Premium BRZ today. The dealer also does Ford, so I ask for the ability to move a deposit to a Focus ST if I wanted. So I have my first and second choices all at one dealer.

[Teh_Poop_Shoot]

Originally Posted by NeoDiNardo

Can't wait for my BR-ZED to be mine.

Upgrade the stereo, possibly (from what little I've heard) add a cool air intake and upgrade the exhaust, then I'll sit on about 225 HP. For as light as it is, that's plenty for me. I don't need an STI version. Or the wait for one.

Originally Posted by NeoDiNardo

After doing some more research, I've become a bit concerned about the interior quality of the BRZ Limited vs the relative value of going with another 30K or less out the door competitor. While its apparent that you are never going to get handling quite as good as the BRZ from current competitors for the same money, is that enough to forgo better quality interiors, better gas effiency, more agressive styling, more utility, and more torque?

Über BRZ handling aside, the 2013 Ford Focus will handle decent, and seems an improvement on most of the above, with the concession that it's FWD car. However at this weight to power ratio, does it really matter what wheels you put the power down on? And all the anti torque steer tech has people excited to test drive this ST with a "feel no other fwd car has"

Or you could save up a bit longer for a Nissan 370Z, which isn't astronomically far off from the price of a BRZ Limited and comes with a better interior, more HP, more torque.

Of course this is just my book feeling, I'm hoping my hands on feeling will set me straight. I've only ever test driven a 2006 GTI, a 2012 Mazda Speed 3, owned a 2006 Civic SI and a 1994 Mustang GT. I think I need to test drive the BRZ first and foremost, feel up its interior, test drive a 2013 370Z, a 2013 Focus ST, and for good measure a 2012 Golf R (never going to find one). There is nothing else currently like the BRZ's character that's not out of my price range, Not a convertable or a gas hog, but is that unique character enough to pay just over 30K OTD vs my other options? I'd love to be convinced either way.

My biggest problem is I don't have the hands on info to make a good decision. Reviews only take you so far. If the BRZ Limited was like $27500 OTD I'd happily consider it a bargain, but at over 30K OTD I'm not sure yet. I'm sure my first test drive will have me forget everything I just posted but until that happens the concerns remain.

Anyone else feeling that way or can ease my concerns with new hands on test drive feedback? Perhaps I just need to step down to the BRZ Premium trim pricing to feel better about this purchase.

Originally Posted by NeoDiNardo

I might be over reacting but I can't help but be nervous about it. I've never even seen the BRZ. I just hope the interior and extras on the limited trim is worth the money and is at least on par with the interior of a 2006 Civic SI, preferably a tad better actually. And if the 2013 Focus ST approaches VW levels of interior quality I'm going to be a tad jealous.

That said I'm not letting go of my BRZ preorder! Not yet. There's way too much hype for it to be off my short list. That Subaru BRZ will be test driven ASAP.

I'm hoping the BRZ will drive better than my old 2006 Civic SI too. I really enjoyed that car, its handling was nice, the stick feel was fantastic, the HP was ok, however it was a little short on torque and the interior didn't hold up over the years.

Originally Posted by NeoDiNardo

Yep, I'm cancelling the BRZ Limited, I'll reconsider the Premium trimmed BRZ, a 2013 WRX (if it's a remake), the 2013 Focus St, the 2012 Golf R, and the 2013 370Z. Possibly others.

I just don't want to pay 2K more for the BRZ Limited anymore. I hope I get my $500 back, they better if they hope to so business with me, but it's hardly the deciding factor at this point. I want to test drive some more before commiting to another order.

Originally Posted by NeoDiNardo

I think my concerns were justified as I didn't want the Limited trim to jack up my monthly price anymore or that seat material that trim uses. I was taking a moment to consider my options, but I will most likely get a WRB Premium Trim BRZ. But since I had to cancel the Limited anyway, I'm just taking a breather to make sure. I got my $500 back, I can get a Premium Trim BRZ by the end of the year I'm sure. I'm in no rush. Later the better really, I want a big down payment and low monthly.

And concidering my options, getting emotional about a blind new brand new model preorder is quite expected. It's a hard decision. I'd be far safer just waiting until I see it. Then there is the X factor of what the 2013 WRX will be, ETC. It's not a clear cut decision for me as it is for some of you guys. I use to own a 2004 SI and 2006 SI and I loved the hatch and the fun of those cars, and I'd like the torque and utility of the Focus ST, so that's the draw there, but I think the BRZ is a better "SI" than the 2012 SI, so that is the draw for the BRZ. So I have lots to concider, and I worry. And I did read that the Subaru interiors are not quite as nice, true or not. So I was worried there too. Sorry!

Originally Posted by NeoDiNardo

In fact the one dealer I'm thinking about per ordering the premium just changed their tune on price from over MSRP to at MSRP.

Originally Posted by NeoDiNardo

Gonna order the Premium BRZ today. The dealer also does Ford, so I ask for the ability to move a deposit to a Focus ST if I wanted. So I have my first and second choices all at one dealer.

[dookie11]

Originally Posted by Teh_Poop_Shoot

Lol!!! Bazillion quotes u got there.

[kwood9000]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

I don't know where this myth started. Everyone on this forum whose dealer has tried to charge a markup has switched to another dealer which was willing to sell at msrp. I don't know of a single person so far who has agreed to pay over msrp. A few dealers are trying to charge markups but I think they'll be left high and dry when their customers can just go somewhere else get it for less. Those dealers are hoping to cash in on huge wait times which I don't think will ever materialize. All the dealers around here anyways are not even close to selling out their allocations.

Not the case in Atlanta, GA where Subaru is not as popular as in other places. Supposedly only 34-36 BRZs were allocated among 6 dealers. For a population of over 5 million, that's not a lot.

Five dealers charged MSRP and those vehicles were taken up immediately. The sixth dealer charged MSRP + $1,000 (with a significant non-refundable deposit), had 6 allocated, and as of a few days ago sold 5 pre-orders. When I ordered mine on 3/24 there was no choice but to go with the last dealer.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by kwood9000

Not the case in Atlanta, GA where Subaru is not as popular as in other places. Supposedly only 34-36 BRZs were allocated among 6 dealers. For a population of over 5 million, that's not a lot.

Five dealers charged MSRP and those vehicles were taken up immediately. The sixth dealer charged MSRP + $1,000 (with a significant non-refundable deposit), had 6 allocated, and as of a few days ago sold 5 pre-orders. When I ordered mine on 3/24 there was no choice but to go with the last dealer.

Yea, I was afraid that would happen here in Atlanta, which is why I was looking at the FR-S to begin with here. I wouldn't have ended up with the 86 at all if I had to pay above MSRP. It pains me to even pay that! I've never paid MSRP for a car.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by kwood9000

Not the case in Atlanta, GA where Subaru is not as popular as in other places. Supposedly only 34-36 BRZs were allocated among 6 dealers. For a population of over 5 million, that's not a lot.

Five dealers charged MSRP and those vehicles were taken up immediately. The sixth dealer charged MSRP + $1,000 (with a significant non-refundable deposit), had 6 allocated, and as of a few days ago sold 5 pre-orders. When I ordered mine on 3/24 there was no choice but to go with the last dealer.

Well you could have drove an hour or two to save the grand...

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by kwood9000

Not the case in Atlanta, GA where Subaru is not as popular as in other places. Supposedly only 34-36 BRZs were allocated among 6 dealers. For a population of over 5 million, that's not a lot.

Five dealers charged MSRP and those vehicles were taken up immediately. The sixth dealer charged MSRP + $1,000 (with a significant non-refundable deposit), had 6 allocated, and as of a few days ago sold 5 pre-orders. When I ordered mine on 3/24 there was no choice but to go with the last dealer.

Ouch. Come on up to New England. There's a dealer every 10 feet here. One has 49 allocated and has sold 9 so far.

[bimmerboy]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Ouch. Come on up to New England. There's a dealer every 10 feet here. One has 49 allocated and has sold 9 so far.

Which dealership is this?

[Spaceywilly]

Originally Posted by bimmerboy

Which dealership is this?

Manchester Subaru

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