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Old 04-11-2012, 12:04 AM   #1107
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I have some worn 235/40 on 17x7.5 wheels. I'm test-fitting those first thing after I get the car.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:04 AM   #1108
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Debating between 18's and 19's

Cant believe i even typed that but i have got to get out of the fwd honda mindset....which i never went over 16's lol
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:15 AM   #1109
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Debating between 18's and 19's

Cant believe i even typed that but i have got to get out of the fwd honda mindset....which i never went over 16's lol
Or better yet you should get back into a Honda mindset and go with 16s or 17s.
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Old 04-11-2012, 12:53 AM   #1110
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they'll poke further out by ~19mm. In all honesty, 245 is TOO wide for this car, and going staggered with wider tires in the back is in my opinion a bad idea on this car. It's ruins what was the goal of this car in the first place, playful balance.

If you want to retain the Dynamic balance on this car you'll need to keep the same sizes on all 4 corners. 225/40/18 is a perfect fit in my opinion. If you just want something aggressive looking then that's a different discussion.
What width rims would best fit the 225 tire? Some of the 18" rims on offer seem to come in 18x8 or 18x8.5 (and nothing thinner). Would these be too wide for 225s? One autoblog review said that the front tires need to stay at 215...is that just false?
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What width rims would best fit the 225 tire? Some of the 18" rims on offer seem to come in 18x8 or 18x8.5 (and nothing thinner). Would these be too wide for 225s? One autoblog review said that the front tires need to stay at 215...is that just false?
yea, somewhat false, doesn't need to be..but if you're keeping the STOCK 7" wide wheel, going anything wider won't be a great fit. It would look really bad too.

8.5 wide is a good width for a 225, depends on the tire brand, that'll determine how "stretched" the sidewall will be. 225 on a 8" wide is likely to have a more "flush tire" look to it. However, like i said, it all depends on the tire make/model. They all fit a little differently. A 225 in one brand, can sometimes run wider than even a 235 from another make.

A stretched sidewall is stronger and more resistant to caving, or rolling over, but a more natural fitting relaxed sidewall will have more grip feedback at the limits. you may also have a bit more Curbing protection when parallel parking
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Old 04-11-2012, 01:25 AM   #1112
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you may also have a bit more Curbing protection when parallel parking

THIS! Always good insurance when your girl takes your car out to run errands or for a 1am stop at taco bell and you forgot their POS curb sticks out 2 feet from the drive up window.


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Old 04-11-2012, 01:34 AM   #1113
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yea, somewhat false, doesn't need to be..but if you're keeping the STOCK 7" wide wheel, going anything wider won't be a great fit. It would look really bad too.

8.5 wide is a good width for a 225, depends on the tire brand, that'll determine how "stretched" the sidewall will be. 225 on a 8" wide is likely to have a more "flush tire" look to it. However, like i said, it all depends on the tire make/model. They all fit a little differently. A 225 in one brand, can sometimes run wider than even a 235 from another make.

A stretched sidewall is stronger and more resistant to caving, or rolling over, but a more natural fitting relaxed sidewall will have more grip feedback at the limits. you may also have a bit more Curbing protection when parallel parking
Thanks for the response. At this point I'm inclined towards some Enkei options: RPF1, GTC01, RAIJIN, EV5.

RPF1: 18x8 in 35 or 45 offset

RAIJIN: 18x8 in 35 or 45 offset

GTC01: 18x7.5 in 48 offset; 18x8 in 35 or 48 offset

EV5: 18x7.5 in 38 or 45 offset

Any reason (other than looks) to prefer one over the other? And how do I determine which offset is right?
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THIS! Always good insurance when your girl takes your car out to run errands or for a 1am stop at taco bell and you forgot their POS curb sticks out 2 feet from the drive up window.


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Thanks for the response. At this point I'm inclined towards some Enkei options: RPF1, GTC01, RAIJIN, EV5.

RPF1: 18x8 in 35 or 45 offset

RAIJIN: 18x8 in 35 or 45 offset

GTC01: 18x7.5 in 48 offset; 18x8 in 35 or 48 offset

EV5: 18x7.5 in 38 or 45 offset

Any reason (other than looks) to prefer one over the other? And how do I determine which offset is right?
you pretty set on enkei?..they're cost vs strength ratio is awesome, don't get me wrong, just curious.

if you're going with a 225/40 18 tire, i'd say go 8" wide, it's a better fit IMO.

for 8" wide, it seems your offset choices are 35 or 45. If you care about the Look, +35 will Sit better. but your steering geometry will stay truer with the +45.

The +45 will poke ~15mm more than stock, the +35 ~25 mm more than stock. If you're not planning on lowering at all the +35 might look strange.

With a large drop (1.5"+) the +45's even with their 15mm of "poke" may still end up looking very tucked.

but i mean, if all you care about is the drive, the +45 is a better fit. provided it clears the inner suspension. you'll have ~10mm less inner clearance..you're likely fine. a +35 has the same inner clearance as stock.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:32 AM   #1115
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you pretty set on enkei?..they're cost vs strength ratio is awesome, don't get me wrong, just curious.

if you're going with a 225/40 18 tire, i'd say go 8" wide, it's a better fit IMO.

for 8" wide, it seems your offset choices are 35 or 45. If you care about the Look, +35 will Sit better. but your steering geometry will stay truer with the +45.

The +45 will poke ~15mm more than stock, the +35 ~25 mm more than stock. If you're not planning on lowering at all the +35 might look strange.

With a large drop (1.5"+) the +45's even with their 15mm of "poke" may still end up looking very tucked.

but i mean, if all you care about is the drive, the +45 is a better fit. provided it clears the inner suspension. you'll have ~10mm less inner clearance..you're likely fine. a +35 has the same inner clearance as stock.
Great info again, thanks. Don't have my heart set on Enkei but they seem to have a good reputation for the price. I really fell in love with the look of some BBS rims, until I saw the price. For now, I'll probably want something closer to the Enkei price. Are there other brands in this price range you'd recommend?

Bit of a newb, but I think I follow what you're saying. I do want to maintain steering geometry, but I probably will do lowering springs at some point. When you say the +35 "pokes" more than +45, do you mean they will stick out closer to the fender? And what exactly does "tucked" mean? You mean like hugging against the fender? Sorry for the dumb questions, and thanks for the help.

It sounds like +45 would work better for me, since I don't care too much about the wheels hugging SUPER close to the fenders...of course I don't want the wheels super pushed in either. So +45 sounds good, assuming it clears the suspension.
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Old 04-11-2012, 02:45 AM   #1116
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Yea, some nice 225 summer compound tires and the car goes up a notch in grip, but can still toss it's cookies in stock form


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Well 215s will save you even more money.

Width vs gearing and weight.. time will tell.. let me know how it goes I won't bother with 225s.. either 215/45 or 235/40 for me.
Will do. At this point. I'm waiting to see what wheels will be available and how they will fit. This will be my DD so I'm looking at 18's max.
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Great info again, thanks. Don't have my heart set on Enkei but they seem to have a good reputation for the price. I really fell in love with the look of some BBS rims, until I saw the price. For now, I'll probably want something closer to the Enkei price. Are there other brands in this price range you'd recommend?

Bit of a newb, but I think I follow what you're saying. I do want to maintain steering geometry, but I probably will do lowering springs at some point. When you say the +35 "pokes" more than +45, do you mean they will stick out closer to the fender? And what exactly does "tucked" mean? You mean like hugging against the fender? Sorry for the dumb questions, and thanks for the help.

It sounds like +45 would work better for me, since I don't care too much about the wheels hugging SUPER close to the fenders...of course I don't want the wheels super pushed in either. So +45 sounds good, assuming it clears the suspension.
yep, you've got the concept down, and don't read too much into it when i say tucked...what's "tucked" for some is a good looking fitment to most.

For a similar price/performance range, i like 5zigen ..although their style selection is VERY limited.

As far as performance wheels, there's not alot of competition in enkei price range. If you were willing to spend a bit more you could look at OZ's/sparco wheels(cheap OZs), and the Work Emotion Line. Work emotion CR kai/ultimates have always been one of my favorites. I'll probably end up with those for the FR-S/BRZ. These Works can easily be twice the price of enkei's though, so i can't say there's value in them, but the heart knows no value


http://www.workwheelsusa.com/product...=27&wheel=1003


I do think any enkei is a great choice though.I've owned the GTC01,EKM,RPF's and the RPMs before, all great rims. Their styles are rarely flashy but they get the job done
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I'm looking for a lightweight 17x7 to use for autocross. In order to stick with stock class in SCCA you need 17x7 wheels. Anyone ever heard of or have experience with the Konig Daylite? A 17x7 wheel is only ~15lb. at $140 a piece it's hard to beat. However it only comes in a 40 offset. While it work on the BRZ/FRS chassis?
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I'm looking for a lightweight 17x7 to use for autocross. In order to stick with stock class in SCCA you need 17x7 wheels. Anyone ever heard of or have experience with the Konig Daylite? A 17x7 wheel is only ~15lb. at $140 a piece it's hard to beat. However it only comes in a 40 offset. While it work on the BRZ/FRS chassis?
No experience with them. they should fit fine though. Also look at motegi traklites. I havent checked but theyre probably like 13-14 pounds each in a 17x7 size. More money though..$140 is cheap..id question strength at a price and weight like that.

Cheap/light/strong..when it comes to wheels u only get 2 out of the 3. If you Really cheap out theyre often not strong OR light
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I'm looking for a lightweight 17x7 to use for autocross. In order to stick with stock class in SCCA you need 17x7 wheels. Anyone ever heard of or have experience with the Konig Daylite? A 17x7 wheel is only ~15lb. at $140 a piece it's hard to beat. However it only comes in a 40 offset. While it work on the BRZ/FRS chassis?
FYI, to be legal for SCCA stock you also have to be within 1/4" (6.35mm) of the stock 48mm offset, so the Daylite is no good.

I'm looking at Kosei K1-TS. Kosei lists them as available in 17x7, 42mm offset, 5x100/114.3 and they should be ~$200 and ~15lb but I can't find a source yet at this offset.
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