Can you name any FWD sports cars? - Page 3 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

rice_classic · 06-09-2014, 05:21 PM

More from "your friends at wiki"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Front-wheel-drive_sports_cars

vh_supra26 · 06-09-2014, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Wikipedia is not a credible source. I could edit that article and say that Mother Theresa was a Sports Car.

Also, you didn't read the quote anyway:

They actually have a reviewer that reads everything that is edited.

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

More from "your friends at wiki"

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Front-wheel-drive_sports_cars

Alright man, you keep enjoying your FWD sports cars

gymratter · 06-09-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Source?

3 out 4 of those definitions above say that only seating 2 is a pre-requisite. Thus the CRX is more of a Sports Car by definition than the Twins.. you know, according to actual definitions.

Wouldn't want to be pedantic or anything.

Source? ME!!!

lol, so you define a sports car by what a book says. LAME!!!

i define it on how it feels and drives.

any real enthusiast knows a sports car is RWD or AWD. there is a reason why they make FWD cars. its cheaper and economical.

rice_classic · 06-09-2014, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Alright man, you keep enjoying your FWD sports cars

Racing one this weekend... for sport.

Levi · 06-09-2014, 05:37 PM

FWD cars are "psuedo-sports cars", not sports cars by definition.

If you want to build a sportscar (from scratch), you'd build it with the engine closer to the center or at the back, as RWD or eventually AWD. FWD sprotscars are a result of constraints that are costly to overcome. Sports cars are about the best layout as long constraints permit it or can be overcome, FWD is not the best layout. Again a 100 PS sports car does not need to be RWD...

rice_classic · 06-09-2014, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

any real enthusiast knows a sports car is RWD or AWD. there is a reason why they make FWD cars. its cheaper and economical.

Any "real" enthusiast... lol that's funny shit right there.

rice_classic · 06-09-2014, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Levi

FWD cars are "psuedo-sports cars", not sports cars by definition.

Conjecture.

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Originally Posted by Levi

Sports cars are about the best layout as long constraints permit it or can be overcome, FWD is not the best layout. Again a 100 PS sports car does not need to be RWD...

Contradictory statement. In the event that you're goal is to make a 100-120hp sports car that's affordable and light wouldn't FWD work better as you're going suffer less drive-train loss and the vehicle will also be lighter? Since 100PS doesn't need to be RWD, that stand to reason a FWD layout is the best layout for a 100PS sports car.

Nothing in the definition of sports car says it has to be very powerful.

gymratter · 06-09-2014, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by rice_classic

Any "real" enthusiast... lol that's funny shit right there.

when you think of eco / family / boring cars what comes to mind. FWD

tahdizzle · 06-09-2014, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

Source? ME!!!

lol, so you define a sports car by what a book says. LAME!!!

i define it on how it feels and drives.

any real enthusiast knows a sports car is RWD or AWD. there is a reason why they make FWD cars. its cheaper and economical.

By your definition a 3 wheeled vehicle, be it FWD or RWD, could be a sports car. Just by how it feels when you drive it.

I agree with you though. I definitely feel a FWD car can be classified as a sports car if it feels like a sports car.

gymratter · 06-09-2014, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by tahdizzle

By your definition a 3 wheeled vehicle, be it FWD or RWD, could be a sports car. Just by how it feels when you drive it.

I agree with you though. I definitely feel a FWD car can be classified as a sports car if it feels like a sports car.

RWD 3 wheeler > FWD 4 wheeler

maybe your driving the wrong cars

alright guys, lets make everything FWD. Toyota please make the next 86 FWD so all the people on this thread can be happy. while you are at it make FT1 FWD too. please please Toyota, cause FWD rocks

paulca · 06-09-2014, 05:59 PM

Ahhh yes. Now the purpose of my post becomes clear. A good old controversial debate.

I think my point is, there aren't many true to the bone FWD purpose built sports cars.

Plenty of sporty re-purposed family hatchback/salons, but few thoroughbreds.

An M3 is arguably a sup'ed up executive salon. BMW didn't make a sports car and then down tune it into a 318i did they?

tahdizzle · 06-09-2014, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gymratter

RWD 3 wheeler > FWD 4 wheeler

maybe your driving the wrong cars

alright guys, lets make everything FWD. Toyota please make the next 86 FWD so all the people on this thread can be happy. while you are at it make FT1 FWD too. please please Toyota, cause FWD rocks

stugray · 06-09-2014, 06:01 PM

A "Sports Car" is intended to be for participation in motorsports.

Ask yourself this question: "Would anyone knowledgeable in automotive engineering ever START with FWD if 'racing' was the intent?"

I say - No.
It's that simple. If the car has FWD, then the primary design criteria was NOT for "participation in motorosports"

And if you want a real sports car, then it is mid-engine RWD :-)

gymratter · 06-09-2014, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by stugray

A "Sports Car" is intended to be for participation in motorsports.

Ask yourself this question: "Would anyone knowledgeable in automotive engineering ever START with FWD if 'racing' was the intent?"

I say - No.
It's that simple. If the car has FWD, then the primary design criteria was NOT for "participation in motorosports"

finally, someone with brains

lol i kid...

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Levi Senior Member Join Date: May 2011 Drives: Toyota Location: Germany Posts: 1,202 Thanks: 134 Thanked 138 Times in 90 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	FWD cars are "psuedo-sports cars", not sports cars by definition. If you want to build a sportscar (from scratch), you'd build it with the engine closer to the center or at the back, as RWD or eventually AWD. FWD sprotscars are a result of constraints that are costly to overcome. Sports cars are about the best layout as long constraints permit it or can be overcome, FWD is not the best layout. Again a 100 PS sports car does not need to be RWD...

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paulca Senior Member Join Date: May 2014 Drives: Toyota GT86 Coupe Red (UK) Location: United Kingdom Posts: 554 Thanks: 20 Thanked 291 Times in 171 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ahhh yes. Now the purpose of my post becomes clear. A good old controversial debate. I think my point is, there aren't many true to the bone FWD purpose built sports cars. Plenty of sporty re-purposed family hatchback/salons, but few thoroughbreds. An M3 is arguably a sup'ed up executive salon. BMW didn't make a sports car and then down tune it into a 318i did they?

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stugray Banned Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 GBS BRZ Limited Location: Colorado Posts: 1,925 Thanks: 627 Thanked 1,445 Times in 711 Posts Mentioned: 41 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	A "Sports Car" is intended to be for participation in motorsports. Ask yourself this question: "Would anyone knowledgeable in automotive engineering ever START with FWD if 'racing' was the intent?" I say - No. It's that simple. If the car has FWD, then the primary design criteria was NOT for "participation in motorosports" And if you want a real sports car, then it is mid-engine RWD :-)

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