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Old 06-09-2014, 04:14 PM   #15
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Yeah, MR2 and MRS were RWD.

I would add the '98 Civic Si to the list of factory options:

CRX
Integra Type R
RSX-S

Also:
VW GTI
Celica GTS
Mazdaspeed3
Mini Cooper S JCW
Focus RS, Focus ST, Fiesta ST

Someone (not me) may nominate the Neon SRT4.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:23 PM   #16
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Yeah, MR2 and MRS were RWD.

I would add the '98 Civic Si to the list of factory options:

CRX
Integra Type R
RSX-S

Also:
VW GTI
Celica GTS
Mazdaspeed3
Mini Cooper S JCW
Focus RS, Focus ST, Fiesta ST

Someone (not me) may nominate the Neon SRT4.
In your "Also:" you just listed everything that the OP already wanted excluded, boosted up economy cars.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:27 PM   #17
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so I guess the M3 isn't a RWD sports car then. my bad.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:35 PM   #18
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No. FWD is not found in my definition of a sports car.
This, there is not such thing as a FWD sports car.

However, there are FWD sporty cars.
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Old 06-09-2014, 04:36 PM   #19
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This, there is not such thing as a FWD sports car.

However, there are FWD sporty cars.


It's not off a showroom floor though. So you're still right.

But FWD can still "because racecar"
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to say that the celica is a sports car and not the civic or integra r doesnt make any sense. i can tell you that the integra r gives my brz a serious run for its money in the handling department (hard to compare since my time with each was so far apart). my speed protege handles better than most "sports cars."

if you care more about where a car came from rather than how it drives now, i dont think you understand what a sports car is about.
I would say it depends on which gen Celica we are talking about.

The last gen Celica were FWD sporty cars. It didn't have the GT4 option.
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the 3000gt was a FWD sports car :p
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How could I have forgotten the ultimate example of "FWD sports car"?

The 2006-2007 Chevy Monte Carlo SS. 303hp/323tq V8 and a 4 speed auto channeled through the front wheels to 235/50R18 all-season Eagle RSA's.

Oh hells yes.
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lol, FWD sports cars do not exist people. sporty FWD cars are another story.
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This, there is not such thing as a FWD sports car.

However, there are FWD sporty cars.
Merriam Webster:
: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving


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  • sports car
  1. small fast car: a small car with a low center of gravity designed for fast acceleration and for handling at high speeds

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sports car


noun a small, high-powered automobile with long, low lines, usually seating two persons.




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a production car designed for speed, high acceleration, and manoeuvrability, having a low body and usually adequate seating for only two persons
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lol, FWD sports cars do not exist people. sporty FWD cars are another story.
Source?


3 out 4 of those definitions above say that only seating 2 is a pre-requisite. Thus the CRX is more of a Sports Car by definition than the Twins.. you know, according to actual definitions.

Wouldn't want to be pedantic or anything.
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: a low small usually 2-passenger automobile designed for quick response, easy maneuverability, and high-speed driving


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My friends over at wikipedia disagrees.

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Layout

The drive train and engine layout significantly influences the handling characteristics of an automobile, and is crucially important in the design of a sports car.

The front-engine, rear-wheel-drive layout (FR) is common to sports cars of any era and has survived longer in sports cars than in mainstream automobiles. Examples include the Caterham 7, Mazda MX-5, and the Chevrolet Corvette. More specifically, many such sports cars have a FMR layout, with the centre of mass of the engine between the front axle and the firewall.

In search of improved handling and weight distribution, other layouts are sometimes used. The RMR layout is commonly found only in sports cars—the motor is centre-mounted in the chassis (closer to and behind the driver), and powers only the rear wheels. Some high-performance sports car manufacturers, such as Ferrari and Lamborghini have preferred this layout.

Porsche is one of the few remaining manufacturers using the rear-engine, rear-wheel-drive layout (RR). The motor's distributed weight across the wheels, in a Porsche 911, provides excellent traction, but the significant mass behind the rear wheels makes it more prone to oversteer in some situations. Porsche has continuously refined the design and in recent years added electronic driving aids (i.e. computerised traction-stability control) to counteract these inherent design shortcomings.[5]

The front-engine, front-wheel-drive layout (FF) layout which is the most common in sport compacts and hot hatches, and cars in general, is not generally used for sports cars. This layout is advantageous for small, light, lower power sports cars, as it avoids the extra weight, increased transmission power loss, and packaging problems of a long driveshaft and longitudinal engine of FR vehicles. However, its conservative handling effect, particularly understeer, and the fact that many drivers believe rear wheel drive is a more desirable layout for a sports car count against it. The Fiat Barchetta, Saab Sonett and Berkeley cars are sports cars with this layout.

Before the 1980s few sports cars used four-wheel drive, which had traditionally added a lot of weight. Although not a sports car, the Audi Quattro proved its worth in rallying. With its improvement in traction, particularly in adverse weather conditions, four-wheel drive is no longer uncommon in high-powered sports cars, e.g. Porsche, Lamborghini, and the Bugatti Veyron.
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My friends over at wikipedia disagrees.
Wikipedia is not a credible source. I could edit that article and say that Mother Theresa was a Sports Car.

Also, you didn't read the quote anyway:

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The Fiat Barchetta, Saab Sonett and Berkeley cars are sports cars with this layout.
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