Open Letter to Potential FR-S Buyers & Disillusioned Owners

[Davey]

Originally Posted by Annahra

So problem solved: if you bought the car and don't like it, it's probably because you are a fat guy!

Fixed.

[jeffsquared]

Originally Posted by Annahra

this is really a girl's car. I'm 5'4" and the seat fits me perfectly;

5'4" guy here. I like the car too.

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[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Yeah it sort of makes sense for potential buyers who haven't bought the car yet, but as directed towards current owners, I don't think you can convince anyone to be happy with their purchase. They either are or aren't.

Agreed, either you like it or you don't. I'm looking at this thread from a non owner / potential buyer's point of view.

[J_kennington]

Originally Posted by Annahra

Okay, so the problem is, this is really a girl's car. I'm 5'4" and the seat fits me perfectly; the steering wheel/pedals are perfect for my reach; the seat belt doesn't rub; I can fit it anywhere because it's tiny; it's easy for me to wash because it's short; I get lots of attention while driving it; I don't have to worry about beating muscle cars in a straight line because guys usually just compliment me on the car and don't try to pull on me. If it won't fit, it's probably more than I want to haul anyway. No kids so no real backseat required. Oh yeah and the gas mileage is fabulous. So problem solved: if you bought the car and don't like it, it's probably because you are a guy!

Because every guy is 7' tall and 250+ lbs? What about big girls? I'm 5'6 ~140 lbs. and love everything about the car. Will I go FI after the warranty is up? Most likely. But it's simply because I want to. Not because it has no power. I bought the car to enjoy. I enjoy tinkering.

The true bottom line, too many people have bought into the "moar powa" mindset.

[BRZ21]

Originally Posted by Tromatic

You cant fix stupid.

I do it everyday (teacher)

[P86RAVES]

Originally Posted by Annahra

Okay, so the problem is, this is really a girl's car. I'm 5'4" and the seat fits me perfectly; the steering wheel/pedals are perfect for my reach; the seat belt doesn't rub; I can fit it anywhere because it's tiny; it's easy for me to wash because it's short; I get lots of attention while driving it; I don't have to worry about beating muscle cars in a straight line because guys usually just compliment me on the car and don't try to pull on me. If it won't fit, it's probably more than I want to haul anyway. No kids so no real backseat required. Oh yeah and the gas mileage is fabulous. So problem solved: if you bought the car and don't like it, it's probably because you are a guy!

That is what my friend said the first time she drove my FRS. "This car feels, I dunno... girly. The clutch, the shifter, the steering."

That's a mouthful considering she's also driven my Miata.

I'm 5'11 and 180-198 (depending on the season), and she's 5'5 118.

[P86RAVES]

Originally Posted by BRZ21

I do it everyday (teacher)

I'd say you erode ignorance more so than fix stupid.

[Demandred7]

Originally Posted by e-d.

definitely more attractive, but no one can hate a classic

Not hating - just different times and beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Without the original AE86, there would be no FR-S.

[blackhawkdown]

the Scion Tc was a chick car, it is undeniable that it is.

[UltramarineLuck]

I'm 6'1, 180lbs and I feel like it fits me like a glove... even moreso than my 2002 Firebird!

[gymratter]

Im 5'11 at 160lbs and the FRS seems too tight for me

guess im a little claustrophobic

[FyeaFRS]

6'3 240... It just wants a hug...

[naticedog04]

heavily modifying a car always come with risks and compromise.
like OP i am tired of reading about people who bought car, mod it, then get tired and sell it.
this is not the cars fault, this is the owner's.
from life, i understand some peeps have to learn the hard way, and opening a topic about buyers remorse will not help them see past what they do not understand. peeps will see what they want to see and believe what they want to believe. but such is life.
in reality, most people dont like to drive. it doesnt matter what kind of car they drive, all they think about is getting from point A to point B and sometimes C. they want comfy seats, probably four doors, they want expensive/reliable car brand, they want nice rims, efficient gas, with a sales price tag.
for the small population who enjoying driving, the FRS/BRZ is a potential option and affordable car for them. backspace maybe an issue if kids and carseats are involved.
so OP, enjoy ur car cause it was built for the "drivers" of the world.

[paulca]

Originally Posted by Monogram

I find it somewhat hillarious that people post comparison's to family sedans and the fact that their sports car will lose to a "Wagon Queen Family Truckster" in a drag race. This fact has not changed since the 1960's.

Look up some of the old Buick 4 door sedans with a 425hp 401, Old's station wagon's with 400+hp 400+ci engines, 429 4 door cruisers, Plymouth 4 doors and wagons, etc.

In comparison, the sports cars of the day were running 80-140hp 4 cylinders and inline 6 cylinder engines.

Exotics? Nobody is talking about exotics.

Exept maybe the fact that the FR-S is capable of keeping up with many ... just like the inexpensive sports cars of the past.

Indeed, if you look through sports car history you find many more examples of surprisingly low power that you have to work for. Low, light weight, RWD coupe or the classic English roadster FR layout (The MX5/Miata is a British car, to hell with the Japs). People still to this day bite your arm off to get a chance to enter these cars in classics rallys, just so they can enjoy what these kind of cars offer at their limit. The list of models is as long as your arm.

Before buying this car, if you can picture yourself standing in a dark car park at 11pm with engines, whistling turbos, popping and banging around you, slammed poser mobiles, pimped out exteriors/interiors and insanely loud stereo systems. If you can now picture yourself when someone comes to you and your GT86/BRZ/FRS and asks, "What power/torque/0-60/0-100 does it have/do?" and you may feel a little let down or be in anyway ashamed.... walk on.

If you can't picture yourself there because you will be belting round twistie back roads because they are empty at that time of night, then check your finances and put down the deposit.

You'll find me at the nearest roundabout and when you lose your license while attempting to see what your turbo beast will do in a straight line, you can piss right off, you ain't getting a lift.