Any 1 thinking that they may not get either car?

[Shora]

Please, don't flame. I just want to hear some other opinions.

For me, I want a BRZ WRB Premium Manual. That's it. Nothing else. I like the FR-S but don't want an almost $30K Scion (with options OTD). Just me.

It's a car that I plan to keep for some time to come, not a pair of sneakers that I use to jog with for 6 months and buy a fresh pair. I am very flexible with color combination in running shoes (and other items). No so with cars.

With only 500 units imported monthly and almost 600 US dealers, the average dealer will receive about 1 car per month. Some will receive zero some months.

With all the initial hype and pre-orders, it will most likely be at least a year until I can get the exact BRZ that I want.

I don't know about many of you, but too me, a lot happens in 12 months and I'm sure something else may catch my eye. Maybe not, but at least it's a possibility. I'm already feeling like it's compromise what I really want or get no 86. Neither option makes me happy at the moment.

I went to two Subaru Dealers here in South FL (3 visits total) and both knew very little about the car and much less about what will arrive.

The only thing they did know is that they have a whole list of customers to call who will most likely jump on any BRZ on their lot. The managers even showed me the lists (not that I asked to see it).

I must be the only one who feels this way as I haven't seen any threads on this. Totally backing out of the 86. Most others are so committed, the only concern is FRS or BRZ.

Either I'm the only one who feels this way or I'm the only one who feels this way "now".

Time will show.

Anyone else not happy happy about the small allocation where it may affect a purchse?

[powertrip]

Wait 3 months and then reflect on your current understanding as of now. Hype dies down and inventory will increase to meet demand. Its just a matter of time before these things will be sitting on lots without someone already tied to the deal.

[ft86Fan]

Yeah, I can't understand why Subaru wants to limit production. Is the issue that they are not able to crank them out fast enough or they just choose to limit it so its more exclusive? Scion doesn't seem to have the same issue. I guess I'll be getting a FR-S around summer time.

[powertrip]

Originally Posted by ft86Fan

Yeah, I can't understand why Subaru wants to limit production. Is the issue that they are not able to crank them out fast enough or they just choose to limit it so its more exclusive? Scion doesn't seem to have the same issue. I guess I'll be getting a FR-S around summer time.

Subaru is making all 3 models at the same plant. So any supply issues are all due to Subaru. Most likely Toyota entered the deal with an understanding of being provided at a mininum x number of units annually for markets. Likely this agreement provides the majority of the units to Toyota as globally it has a much larger foot print. Subaru is a rather minor brand in comparison compared to the larger players. Therefore one can infer that Subaru's sales target is simply lower as they assess what kind of demand there is for their unique model.

[swift996]

Give it some patience, I can guarantee that Subaru is ramping up production despite what they say in press releases. Too big of an opportunity for the car maker to not.

[Dave-ROR]

I was considering dropping the BRZ-L and getting something else but the price came in within the range I was fine with so pending test drive, I'm not jumping ship.

It probably helps that I'm first on my dealers list, which is the largest Subaru in FL also, and am getting exactly what I want, hopefully very early next month.

[Dionysus]

Nice post OP, my thoughts exactly. I think car is just not a good value in any trim, especially with the markups on the BRZ that will happen. I think if I do get this car, it will be the STI version a few years down the road. Current car is too expensive for what it is, not enough HP, and the supply issue has pushed me out of the market for one, considering I won't pay MSRP, and I'd need to test drive the car first. I'm going to start looking into a 370z or some other sport coupe. Perhaps a used cayman.

[MRZ415]

If you can wait till 2014/2015 model year you might get 0.9% financing and or lower than MSRP pricing on left-overs from the previous year.

but if your like me and you WANT the BRZ NOW((May/June/JULY))
then MSRP is the best you can get... if you are able to pre-order from
a dealership and get a VON on PAPER that states "MSRP only price "
with the salesmen signature on it.

[slizoth]

Its beginning to look like I will create a Mutual Fund account, put my car payment into that for the next five years and wait until I can afford to buy a car outright.

[Tainen]

I saw a report yesterday that said there were about a thousand pre-orders for the BRZs in the US right now. Well, that's only a fraction of the total allocation- so you should be able to pre-order and get one within the first third of the production cycle, imo, if you order from a dealer that doesn't have many orders yet. (Maybe you haveto go out of state to find one- who knows. if you really want one, it's worth it to drive a state or two to get it.)

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by MRZ415

If you can wait till 2014/2015 model year you might get 0.9% financing and or lower than MSRP pricing on left-overs from the previous year.

but if your like me and you WANT the BRZ NOW((May/June/JULY))
then MSRP is the best you can get... if you are able to pre-order from
a dealership and get a VON on PAPER that states "MSRP only price "
with the salesmen signature on it.

Well not everyone is paying MSRP (or higher)

[Sportsguy83]

OP, a couple of things.

1) What dealers did you go to? I have a pre-order with Subaru of North Broward for the EXACT car I want #2 at the dealer.

2) Really, the pre-orders should be fulfilled within the first three months, there is no way you would have to wait a year. There is a lot of hype being built up that is going to be super hard to get this car. After 3 moths or so, I bet you it won't be that hard.

3) I also went shopping around some dealers that knew nothing, but keep going around and you will get one that will work with you. I am paying MSRP not a penny more, written in my pre-order paper.

Is it me, or does it make NO sense this bullcrap that car allocations per dealer for pre-orders will be from May to November, spread out so that they don't arrive at the same time, BUT every month 500 BRZs will make it to USA?

There are about 1,000 pre-orders so in 3 months all pre-orders should have been fulfilled, not far away in November.... right?

[switchlanez]

Originally Posted by ft86Fan

Yeah, I can't understand why Subaru wants to limit production. Is the issue that they are not able to crank them out fast enough or they just choose to limit it so its more exclusive? Scion doesn't seem to have the same issue. I guess I'll be getting a FR-S around summer time.

Keeping it "limited" was a buzz-word in their marketing pamphlet. Beneath the hype, Subaru will essentially try to keep supply on par with demand. If demand exceeds supply or supply exceeds demand, that's a loss. Econ 101.

Same for Scion. It will be an exclusive halo car; they just don't market it that way.

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by sportsguy83

Is it me, or does it make NO sense this bullcrap that car allocations per dealer for pre-orders will be from May to November, spread out so that they don't arrive at the same time, BUT every month 500 BRZs will make it to USA?

That's directly from Subaru and it makes sense. It's a *fair* way to distribute the cars. If one dealer is getting 70 and one is getting 7, then it makes sense that every month one gets 10 and the other gets 1. It wouldn't make sense to give that one dealer all 7 and the one that gets 70 only 3 cars, and the opposite is also true.