3 Wheels is better than... ?

[hamzam]

Can someone please explain! I always felt it, but now I recorded it:

[ame]http://youtu.be/ywJM6eg4Wyw[/ame]

Also, at work, with a steeper (but clearable) incline, it gets MUCH higher, according to co-workers.

What's going on?! I have Eibach Pro-Kit Springs and 25mm FR / 19mm RR sways.

[Reaper]

thats what swaybars do by definition. is this a real question?

[hamzam]

My first car I did sway bars on. But I had no idea it would make things that stiff just going up a driveway. But I understand now, thanks.

[Reaper]

yup.

[hamzam]

What does the weight of a sway bar effect?

[Reaper]

i edited my response. i read it as "my first car, I did sway bars on" like you were saying you did it on a car before this one.

[speedrye]

Originally Posted by hamzam

What does the weight of a sway bar effect?

The stiffer/thicker the sway bar, the less movement you'll have. That means less movement in corners, but also on entering a driveway. In your case, a thicker sway bar would mean that your inner tire would be higher off the ground than a car with a stock sway bar or no sway bar at all.

[gramicci101]

Originally Posted by hamzam

What does the weight of a sway bar effect?

It's not the weight, it's the increased lateral stability upgraded swaybars impart. The swaybar's job is to minimize independent suspension movement between the two sides, which keeps the car from having too much body roll in corners. The wheels can move up and down together, as if you were going over a speedbump, but it's a lot more difficult for one to go up while the other goes down, as they would going around a corner. In this instance, where the suspension would flex independently to go up the curb, since the wheels are tied together you lift a wheel.

[hamzam]

Originally Posted by gramicci101

It's not the weight, it's the increased lateral stability upgraded swaybars impart. The swaybar's job is to minimize independent suspension movement between the two sides, which keeps the car from having too much body roll in corners. The wheels can move up and down together, as if you were going over a speedbump, but it's a lot more difficult for one to go up while the other goes down, as they would going around a corner. In this instance, where the suspension would flex independently to go up the curb, since the wheels are tied together you lift a wheel.

That breaks it down great, much appreciated!

[fatoni]

why are we all talking about sways? 3 points must always be on the same plane but 4 dont have to. the angle you drive out of the driveway yields a situation where the 4th point is further away from the plane than you have available droop travel. i dont think a swaybar is going to limit droop travel like that.

[gramicci101]

It will when one corner is being compressed and the swaybar is strong enough to lift the opposite corner.

[Poodles]

Given that he backed out just fine and it didn't do it, I'm more inclined to believe it's the speed involved and the dampers not dropping fast enough to keep the tire on the ground (plus maybe weight transfer, etc)

[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Poodles

Given that he backed out just fine and it didn't do it, I'm more inclined to believe it's the speed involved and the dampers not dropping fast enough to keep the tire on the ground (plus maybe weight transfer, etc)

Look at the angles. Backing out was straight more or less, not at all on entry. Sway bars will cause the wheels to lose independence (which matter less on a more straight on entry/departure), droop travel (lack thereof) also causes this.

[Poodles]

Originally Posted by Dave-ROR

Look at the angles. Backing out was straight more or less, not at all on entry. Sway bars will cause the wheels to lose independence (which matter less on a more straight on entry/departure), droop travel (lack thereof) also causes this.

Yeah, it's hard to tell, but it definitely looks faster when he lifts the tire.


Should just be glad the twins have such a stiff chassis