Moto-East EcuTek RaceROM and Tune Update!

[AllDayJonRay]

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[Xero-Limit]

Originally Posted by Victor Draken

Have you had any nameless header in your hand to tune?

I've had several customers with them that we've done remotely.

Basically despite the various differences in header design, they fall under either the EL or the UEL variations. With the P&L and nameless you'll have a very similar looking torque curve. Note the flatness and the big torque hump instead of dip 3-4k. They trade off the <3k range that few care about anyway, and end up making power all the way to redline. So we're looking at a very small difference in tuning between ANY properly designed EL headers that use similar runner sizes and lenghts. With the UEL designs it is quite different. For example, with the JDL there we still see a more stock looking torque dip (though much reduced), but they lose less down low and keep the power going to redline. So we have to tweak around the cam timing slightly to take that into consideration. With E85 the tq dip is entirely gone even UEL.

The other aspects like fuel and timing, we fine tune for each vehicle anyway. So any gains there we will work within the confines of the knock sensor unless we have the car on the dyno.

[Xero-Limit]

Originally Posted by ATL BRZ

Sweet! Does this new update also apply to FlexFuel/E85 tunes? If so have you measured an increase in top end as well?

I have a HFC 2.5" front pipe now to compliment my JDL UEL header and 2.5" overpipe. I'm still chasing down that last 6whp to put me over 200 on E85 with your FF kit and tune, lol. It's silly but I can't help but lust for that magic n/a number.

We need to get you on the dyno when I'm available to be there in real time. I think we can hit 200hp no problem if that's the case. Otherwise I can send you what i have done here, it should pick up a few HP.

Originally Posted by AllDayJonRay

Email sent.

Received, we'll get it done in the next few days. We'll include this one at no charge to existing customers.

[Victor Draken]

Originally Posted by moto-mike

I've had several customers with them that we've done remotely.

Basically despite the various differences in header design, they fall under either the EL or the UEL variations. With the P&L and nameless you'll have a very similar looking torque curve. Note the flatness and the big torque hump instead of dip 3-4k. They trade off the <3k range that few care about anyway, and end up making power all the way to redline. So we're looking at a very small difference in tuning between ANY properly designed EL headers that use similar runner sizes and lenghts. With the UEL designs it is quite different. For example, with the JDL there we still see a more stock looking torque dip (though much reduced), but they lose less down low and keep the power going to redline. So we have to tweak around the cam timing slightly to take that into consideration. With E85 the tq dip is entirely gone even UEL.

The other aspects like fuel and timing, we fine tune for each vehicle anyway. So any gains there we will work within the confines of the knock sensor unless we have the car on the dyno.

Can you seriously provide a good tune with a nameless EL/crawford BPB/Nameless 2.5 catted downpipe/Perrin 3" non catted catback?
I'm looking around to find a tuner that has worked on a Nameless EL and know how to properly cam timing it with the crawford BPB.
I'm from Europe, so only e-tune, no dyno

I have faith that you will answer me sincerely haha
@moto-mike

[xjohnx]

Originally Posted by Victor Draken

Can you seriously provide a good tune with a nameless EL/crawford BPB/Nameless 2.5 catted downpipe/Perrin 3" non catted catback?
I'm looking around to find a tuner that has worked on a Nameless EL and know how to properly cam timing it with the crawford BPB.
I'm from Europe, so only e-tune, no dyno

I have faith that you will answer me sincerely haha

He could always remotely dyno tune you if you have access to a dyno locally. You'd just need to schedule some time with @moto-mike to correspond with your dyno time so that you can send him dyno graphs and data logs after each run.

[zoth]

All I can say guys is that @moto-mike is great and awesome customer service. My experience so far is 100% satisfied. Great e-tuner, compared to my last 2 e-tuners.

[Victor Draken]

Originally Posted by xjohnx

He could always remotely dyno tune you if you have access to a dyno locally. You'd just need to schedule some time with @moto-mike to correspond with your dyno time so that you can send him dyno graphs and data logs after each run.

This is a freaking good idea
I just need to find a dyno. Here is not like America... Almost not any dyno around and it costs srsly a lot to do just few runs.

But still... Probably a great solution if e-tuning doesnt achieve what i want.

[Xero-Limit]

Originally Posted by Victor Draken

Can you seriously provide a good tune with a nameless EL/crawford BPB/Nameless 2.5 catted downpipe/Perrin 3" non catted catback?
I'm looking around to find a tuner that has worked on a Nameless EL and know how to properly cam timing it with the crawford BPB.
I'm from Europe, so only e-tune, no dyno

I have faith that you will answer me sincerely haha
@moto-mike

yup, we do it all

We do have someone coming in with the CPBs in a week or so, but we've been able to remotely tune way more involved stuff than that!

[ATL BRZ]

Got the new updates, can't wait to try them! Thanks Mike!

[onzippy]

Originally Posted by zoth

All I can say guys is that @moto-mike is great and awesome customer service. My experience so far is 100% satisfied. Great e-tuner, compared to my last 2 e-tuners.

I have to agree with @zoth. My experience with @moto-mike was also a great one. Service was quick and the the product is exceptional.
I did almost all my logging on my commute to and from work. Sent him the logs and he'd send updated rom files. Few days of that and we're all done.

[zoth]

@moto-mike, he came thru again installed his Flex-Kit but I got a P0452 code and within minutes after explaining to him via e-mail the issue. BAM!! several minutes later a new that file that fixed the issue.

FYI: this was a Saturday I think around 10:00 PM his time.

[onzippy]

Mike, You really nailed it in the last update to the tune. The drive back showed everything is perfect at any throttle position now.
Thanks again!

[ATL BRZ]

Hats off to @moto-mike for another fantastic FlexFuel tune revision. He recently sent me a high-HP and a more subdued Track-friendly version of the new tune. Filled up with 78% ethanol (best I've had so far this summer!) and after logging the track tune I could feel a stronger top end.

The high-HP street tune really surprised me. I have no doubts in my mind that the last 6whp missing from my first 194whp dyno on the old tune are there now breaking 200whp, and it holds all the way to red line. I'm impressed! I foresee another trip to the dyno in the near future.

[AllDayJonRay]

This latest update is on point. For the record, I had zero complaints with the last version I was running, or any other version I've ever used, but there is definitely an improvement with this latest ROM above 5000/6000 rpm.

Thanks again Mike!