Scion FR-S on Display at 2012 New York International Auto Show (NYIAS)

[cyde01]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

www.scion.com

i should have clarified i meant for options like the pictured bspoke audio. i've posted several times in the uber long base price thread...

[csaba]

Look at that front its a beauty so much better than the BRZ!! Those lines on the top of the hood very similar to the one on the mercedes SLK hood!!QUOTE=just86;174461]thats a sick angle, back on the frs boat

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[BrianFRS]

Finally some good shots of the Asphalt! I know what color I'm getting.

[dalli]

omg omg omg, can we sittttt in the car?(the grey one, I suppose we can?)

[Ryephile]

Originally Posted by poormans_LFA

So whiteout isn't SWP??

Looks identical; you can see the pearl quite clearly.

[phenoyz]

DAMN......I think i'm going Scion...just DEbadge it later
front is nicer than brz

[Ryephile]

Look at the rear fender around the gas cap door, lotza pearl

[Mr.Jay]

the whole bespoke thing is something I don;t understand

Scion says it will be standard in all 2013 cars the FRS is a 2013 car soo shouldn't we get the upgrade?

[Frost]

Originally Posted by lpnnlp

I am going to say this from the perspective of a buyer who is looking at the FRS/BRZ for a DD w/ AT, so before you guys gang up on me that I don't get it or whatever, keep this in mind.

Having seen the FRS in person in Arcadia last night, the owerwhelming feeling I got from it in comparison to the BRZ that I saw @ Pacific Subaru is... cheapness. There were the usual suspects like the extra cheap upholstery on the seats, the vinyl parking brake lever, the missing trunk lid liner, the cheesy white on the tach, the ricey front end that is trying way too hard, and the headlights just seemed dim. Here is a new one also: missing lights on the visors (BRZ had them.) These are only the things that we could see, and I bet there are also missing materials that would have contributed to less NVH. Some are thinking that this is great because it makes the car lighter, but for the DD, this is bad.

Now it makes a lot more sense to me how Toyota and Subaru are splitting the market. The FRS is for the wannabee drifters but can also work as the cheaper DD. This group will be younger, single, less afluent, and more likely to opt for the MT. The BRZ is for the older, fatter, married, and more afluent, that is more likely to opt for the AT.

Some of us were appaled when we learned what the target segment Subaru was shooting for, and from this perspective, maybe it makes sense why they would sell less than the FRS. However, the Suabru is going to make the better DD, especially for those who don't have false drifting aspirations and instead appreciate the extra creature comforts and better NVH caharacteristics. We already made peace with our love handles, so a few more pounds on the car is insignificant.

Speaking of love handles, it seems to me the BRZ seats were wider as well. The first thought I had when sitting in the FRS was that the bolsters were too narrow. When I sat in the BRZ I felt... at home. I know it would be cheaper to have only one seat covered by different fabrics, but since the target crowd is different (young/thin v. older/fatter), there could be a legit reason to have slightly different seats.

Now it all comes down to the price of the BRZ....

As a side note, I thought the regular stereo in the FRS is just fine. It complements the level of equipment in the car just fine. It makes no sense to put in a fancier head unit in an otherwise cheap cabin. The BRZ is better suited at this.

You're right and wrong:

What if I am older, more affluent and want a BIGGER race day budget? FR-S is the way to go. I really don't give a rats arse about the stereo, heated seats, or the white on the tach. I just want a cheap great chassis that I can learn much more on.

I traded in my IS300 almost 2 years ago for this moment. Time for it to happen!

That said, if Subaru pricing isn't that much more I'll have to take a look at it too. If both seats feel more or less the same and the drive feels more or less the same, FR-S wins purely because I can spend more on tires and brakes down the road!

[xrs]

Originally Posted by lpnnlp

I am going to say this from the perspective of a buyer who is looking at the FRS/BRZ for a DD w/ AT, so before you guys gang up on me that I don't get it or whatever, keep this in mind.

Having seen the FRS in person in Arcadia last night, the owerwhelming feeling I got from it in comparison to the BRZ that I saw @ Pacific Subaru is... cheapness. There were the usual suspects like the extra cheap upholstery on the seats, the vinyl parking brake lever, the missing trunk lid liner, the cheesy white on the tach, the ricey front end that is trying way too hard, and the headlights just seemed dim. Here is a new one also: missing lights on the visors (BRZ had them.) These are only the things that we could see, and I bet there are also missing materials that would have contributed to less NVH. Some are thinking that this is great because it makes the car lighter, but for the DD, this is bad.

Now it makes a lot more sense to me how Toyota and Subaru are splitting the market. The FRS is for the wannabee drifters but can also work as the cheaper DD. This group will be younger, single, less afluent, and more likely to opt for the MT. The BRZ is for the older, fatter, married, and more afluent, that is more likely to opt for the AT.

Some of us were appaled when we learned what the target segment Subaru was shooting for, and from this perspective, maybe it makes sense why they would sell less than the FRS. However, the Suabru is going to make the better DD, especially for those who don't have false drifting aspirations and instead appreciate the extra creature comforts and better NVH caharacteristics. We already made peace with our love handles, so a few more pounds on the car is insignificant.

Speaking of love handles, it seems to me the BRZ seats were wider as well. The first thought I had when sitting in the FRS was that the bolsters were too narrow. When I sat in the BRZ I felt... at home. I know it would be cheaper to have only one seat covered by different fabrics, but since the target crowd is different (young/thin v. older/fatter), there could be a legit reason to have slightly different seats.

Now it all comes down to the price of the BRZ....

As a side note, I thought the regular stereo in the FRS is just fine. It complements the level of equipment in the car just fine. It makes no sense to put in a fancier head unit in an otherwise cheap cabin. The BRZ is better suited at this.

Originally Posted by Frost

You're right and wrong:

What if I am older, more affluent and want a BIGGER race day budget? FR-S is the way to go. I really don't give a rats arse about the stereo, heated seats, or the white on the tach. I just want a cheap great chassis that I can learn much more on.

I traded in my IS300 almost 2 years ago for this moment. Time for it to happen!

That said, if Subaru pricing isn't that much more I'll have to take a look at it too. If both seats feel more or less the same and the drive feels more or less the same, FR-S wins purely because I can spend more on tires and brakes down the road!

I second that. Additionally the BRZ I saw in person screamed cheap as well. It's cool, everybody needs to justify their purchase decision one way or another. For me, the unpainted cheap plastic stache and spray painted silver dash was the deal breaker for me on the BRZ.

[DIG1992]

Great photos cant wait to see it next week

[AlmostMDD]

Anyone notice the "seek track" button on the bespoke unit? At least it's got its priorities straight!

[Snoopyalien24]

Originally Posted by lupehoops26

is that white pearl or glossy white? between the convention center lighting, spotlighting and camera, it's difficult to tell.

also glad to see bespoke on an FRS, I'm interested to hear any thoughts on the interface - often they are way too complex to be user friendly!

the asphalt looks fantastic!

Pearl and yes Asphalt looks fantastic

DGM is in top 3 again

[Kiwi]

Is this tachometer unique to the scion FRS?

It doesn't seem as white as the one offered on higher trim JDM models, but then it also isn't like the same tachometer as the G/RC models.