Fortune Auto Dreadnaught Pro Gen5 - anyone tried it on the track with feedbacks?

[CSG David]

Originally Posted by celica73

Yeah, and I'd be happy to test a kit and make comments too, if only they would give me something for nothing!

Me too! Unfortunately, we will have to pay. How much? I'm not sure, but we pay basically full price for every single item that is supposedly "sponsored" on our car. We've also paid to guinea pig setups as well. It's unfortunate that some setups just didn't work out.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by dwx

Max Hayter (blkwrxwag on here) is running their 2-way non-remotes on his STX car now and has had good results. He's a national champ autocrosser and might have some feedback.

Ah, so now I know his handle on here... I hear his co-driver's been doing rather well

I wonder who's building his dampers; I'd guess ARE.

[dradernh]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

I'm not competing for money or fame so no point of risking anything lol

Ever since F1 stopped sending scouts to DEs, it hasn't been the same, has it?

[RehabJeff86]

Originally Posted by dradernh

Ever since F1 stopped sending scouts to DEs, it hasn't been the same, has it?

Lmfao


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[thinkdigit]

DSG sounds very defensive but has no valuable data. Just opinions, which anyone at any level can do. I'm not an engineer by any means but I like reading all of CSG's posts. Very informative with real world knowledge.

I'd like to see DSG actually post up an actual dyno and explain reasoning behind it.

Now let's discuss real data. Left is stock and right is FA.



You don't have to be a suspension guru to know that both graphs similar. FA even at full stiff, at 2in/sec, there's less rebound than stock shocks. This probably will work, if they ran stock spring rates. This is probably why at highway speeds my friends STi bounces multiple times over bumps, like a cadillac.

Let me know if I'm wrong

[solidONE]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

Ya i would love FA to sponsor me a set of Dreadnaught Pro Gen5 to test and share real track data

Yes im driving stock suspension pretty hard, now with stickier tires, LSD, and final drive, definitely worrying if stock suspension can keep up

I hv few other cars for DD, my FRS can be solely for track use only

Here is video of my recent track with stock suspension at Thunderhill

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A lot of the time 'sponsor' just means they sell to you for jobber price or 'racer price' I'm sure if you go join and win some events/competitions you will make a better case for yourself rather than videos of yourself on a track.

I'll admit I'm still very curious about FA's stuff, weird damping curves and all.

[RehabJeff86]

Originally Posted by thinkdigit

DSG sounds very defensive but has no valuable data. Just opinions, which anyone at any level can do. I'm not an engineer by any means but I like reading all of CSG's posts. Very informative with real world knowledge.

I'd like to see DSG actually post up an actual dyno and explain reasoning behind it.

Now let's discuss real data. Left is stock and right is FA.



You don't have to be a suspension guru to know that both graphs similar. FA even at full stiff, at 2in/sec, there's less rebound than stock shocks. This probably will work, if they ran stock spring rates. This is probably why at highway speeds my friends STi bounces multiple times over bumps, like a cadillac.

Let me know if I'm wrong

Ya, seriously how many of us on the forum can really fully interpret a shock dyno, it would be nice for vendors to translate into daily easy to understand language rather than throwing bunch of buzzwords and that just sounds cool but no one understand the true meaning like what RCE stated in earlier post

Originally Posted by solidONE

A lot of the time 'sponsor' just means they sell to you for jobber price or 'racer price' I'm sure if you go join and win some events/competitions you will make a better case for yourself rather than videos of yourself on a track.

I'll admit I'm still very curious about FA's stuff, weird damping curves and all.

Oh I post my driving video cuz someone was asking if I'm driving hard on stock suspension yet not to ask for sponsorship... haha ya I'm definitely not a strong candidate for a full sponsorship cuz i don't have the public media exposure or will participate in any kind or race, just simply a HPDE hobbyist hehehe

Ya same here, Im curious about FA stuff hence I started this thread, now thinkdigit post a comparison dyno graph of Stock vs FA... FA graph does look funky lol

[fooddude]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

Ya same here, Im curious about FA stuff hence I started this thread, now thinkdigit post a comparison dyno graph of Stock vs FA... FA graph does look funky lol

I was very interested in 3 makers, either a Bilstein, mid/entry-level Tein (Mono series) or FA for my first future coilover set up for the twin. But after reading thinkdigit's post on this thread and another thread on the suspension boards, as well as reading other people opnions, I am very wary and doubtful I will be happy with FA longterm and the quality. Kinda doubtful of Tein too from random reads after google searches and seeing several (maybe hundreds) of bad reviews, harsh rides and rust&breakage. So that rules out 2 from my list of 3.

Of course there are many other mid-level COs that are much better quality; but those are $2k-3k and much beyond. My budget is only <$2k, so I will just go with the tried, tested & true high quality Bilsteins. I am betting they will outlast both FA and entry/mid-level Tein coilovers. And, in the future I will respring&revalve them to 7k or 8k all around

[RehabJeff86]

Originally Posted by fooddude

I was very interested in 3 makers, either a Bilstein, mid/entry-level Tein (Mono series) or FA for my first future coilover set up for the twin. But after reading thinkdigit's post on this thread and another thread on the suspension boards, as well as reading other people opnions, I am very wary and doubtful I will be happy with FA longterm and the quality. Kinda doubtful of Tein too from random reads after google searches and seeing several (maybe hundreds) of bad reviews, harsh rides and rust&breakage. So that rules out 2 from my list of 3.

Of course there are many other mid-level COs that are much better quality; but those are $2k-3k and much beyond. My budget is only <$2k, so I will just go with the tried, tested & true high quality Bilsteins. I am betting they will outlast both FA and entry/mid-level Tein coilovers. And, in the future I will respring&revalve them to 7k or 8k all around

Ya if your budget is <$2K, Bilsteins B16 is definitely a good choice, RCE Tamrac is also a very good choice, another one i heard good reviews and its tuned by MotoIQ is RS*R Moto Spec or RS*R FT86SpeedFactory spec, and at last HKS Hypermax IV GT or ST ..... hahaha just recommended 6 COs....

[fooddude]

Originally Posted by RehabJeff86

Ya if your budget is <$2K, Bilsteins B16 is definitely a good choice, RCE Tamrac is also a very good choice, another one i heard good reviews and its tuned by MotoIQ is RS*R Moto Spec or RS*R FT86SpeedFactory spec, and at last HKS Hypermax IV GT or ST ..... hahaha just recommended 6 COs....

Yes.. Tarmacs are also on my list (if I was going the lowering spring route). But, I will add T0 and T2 on my list - nothing but good reviews, used in real world competition/hpde by many, and they also are truly knowledgeable. I just didn't put them on my list because they are a tad pricier and over my budget.

Thx for the recs..I will check those custom MotoSpec and FT86sf spec'd RSRs.

Edit: And for HKS..wasn't really interested in them. The GT are too soft, the SP looks nice and I see they're very affordable at $1800... but I don't really know if the HKS stuff is truly built to last and valved amazingly, or if it's just another "jdm cool" overpriced and under-functioning coilover. Could be really good stuff, idk..but there are too few of reviews, technical data and owners of them for me to decide on them.

Bilsteins and RCE is probably the safest bet and offers the most positive reviews, history, experience, and real world track users, etc. Although I like jdm stuff, I can't really say the same for jdm brands regarding coilovers. They are too vague and all their marketing info/specs/dynos are just pretty graphics/press material (no real world individual track users/reviews, damper data, not many owners, no long term users, not used in US competition, etc.)..the only thing you're really counting on is the "cool jdm" name and the pretty advertisements.

At least with Bilstein and RCE, you know their focus is on legit/real damping..whereas jdm-cool and generic US brands could be very hit or miss ..and you just don't know if you're paying for real damping technology, suspension and performance improvements; or if you're just paying for either, an expensive cool jdm name, or for a generic coilover because it's very inexpensive and the only one someone can afford.

[glamcem]

ok to the OP, I am sharing my experience with my coilovers
After the I installed them I took it to the Firestone ( I know a guy who works there he always help me dialing the car with the numbers on my mind) after the alignment front cambers were -3.0 and rear -2.5 and -2.8 ( I think the slight difference might be due to slight ride height).. all I can say is WOW.. I remember driving my friend's Miata with the Ohlins R/T and was very impressed I am also very impressed with FA's performance and ride/comfort level and confidence..

They did a great job on packaging and were very responsive to my phone calls

I am attaching a few pictures that I posted in my build thread and adding a video
FYI, since I destroyed my ABS sensor when working on a custom ducting and spindle job ( long story lol) I had no ABS so I couldn't really bed in the brakes and I am pretty sure I am leaving at least 4-5 secs in lap times














1.5" overall drop net me the camber specs that I posted above

[glamcem]

and interestingly the same GT3RS (from the last event) was in front of me again!! lol, what are the odds? and but this time I had the coilovers and KW kit


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[solidONE]

Originally Posted by glamcem

and interestingly the same GT3RS (from the last event) was in front of me again!! lol, what are the odds? and but this time I had the coilovers and KW kit

If you are using the phone for recording and logging I found that mounting the phone higher right behind the rear view mirror will get you a good camera angle and will not hinder visibility. Only thing is you will have more of the cable dangling.

[glamcem]

Originally Posted by solidONE

If you are using the phone for recording and logging I found that mounting the phone higher right behind the rear view mirror will get you a good camera angle and will not hinder visibility. Only thing is you will have more of the cable dangling.

Cool I will try next time maybe I should also consider getting one of those air vent holders