Can Toyota use the 86/FR-S/BRZ platform for anything else?

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DANG....folks ...... I suggest you take this outside ......and .....






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[vh_supra26]

I'm surprised that no one has shut this thread down yet.

[OICU812]

Yawn...

[vh_supra26]

Moving along, I hope to see more people join the new forum

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[czar07]

Originally Posted by OICU812

Before Subaru even seen the car it was built actually. Of course at that time a fan dangle of equipment in it but the shape and original chassis etc was done. Tada went into negotiation with Subaru on the boxer motor and of course subaru a factory which also Toyota has % ownership in thus final results of the 86,frs,BRZ....this has all been discussed to death


Anyhow the ft1 is a much larger car and I doubt the current twins etc will be modded or changed much.

Again why care or speculate as so much bullshit rumours daily on power changes etc...

I am not speculating anything, just commenting on what was said mate. Neither did I say that the 86, FRS, BRZ were going to change.

[czar07]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

I think the Lexus RC platform is more likely to be used for the FT-1.

I think they MAY use the Lexus LF-LC platform, which itself is very closely related to the LS platform.

[FirestormFRS]

Originally Posted by gymratter

There has been alot of talk of using the twins platform for other sports car. like a shorten version for the sub 86 car and a stretched version for a production FT-1. while that sounds nice and all can Toyota do it? the joint project gives Subaru ownership to right? i mean Toyota would need Subaru's permission if they wanted to use and modified it for any other purpose than with the twins? i dont know thats why I am asking. Thanks

I'm not sure Subaru "owns" the platform. My understanding of the agreement is Toyota pays for the development, Subaru develops and builds, Subaru gets 10% of the production to sale.
Toyota can probably leverage whatever they want from the platform based on them owning a sizable stake in FHI, Subaru's parent company.
I think the IS coupe (RC?) will be the basis for any of the larger rear drive cars in the line up. Not really sure there's a market for a smaller rear drive car, the cost is prohibitive with rear drive.

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by czar07

I think they MAY use the Lexus LF-LC platform, which itself is very closely related to the LS platform.

Really? That car is going to be $100k+.

And who really wants a new Supra to be based on the LS...

Its pretty much the same size as the RC. Come on, its common sense.

[czar07]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

Really? That car is going to be $100k+.

And who really wants a new Supra to be based on the LS...

Its pretty much the same size as the RC. Come on, its common sense.

Well the old MKIV was based off the old LS platform...

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by czar07

Well the old MKIV was based off the old LS platform...

I do not know if you are joking or not. The MK4 Supra used a shorten SC platform.

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by FirestormFRS

I'm not sure Subaru "owns" the platform. My understanding of the agreement is Toyota pays for the development, Subaru develops and builds, Subaru gets 10% of the production to sale.
Toyota can probably leverage whatever they want from the platform based on them owning a sizable stake in FHI, Subaru's parent company.
I think the IS coupe (RC?) will be the basis for any of the larger rear drive cars in the line up. Not really sure there's a market for a smaller rear drive car, the cost is prohibitive with rear drive.

The Lexus IS, RC, GS, and the Toyota Crown all use a similar platform.

[czar07]

Originally Posted by vh_supra26

I do not know if you are joking or not. The MK4 Supra used a shorten SC platform.

I know that bud. The MK1 SC / MK3 Soarer were based off a shortened LS platform.
The GS was also based of the same platform. Therefore a lot of parts are interchangeable between all 4 models.

[vh_supra26]

Originally Posted by czar07

I know that bud. The MK1 SC / MK3 Soarer were based off a shortened LS platform.
The GS was also based of the same platform. Therefore a lot of parts are interchangeable between all 4 models.

Um where did you hear that? From what I read the flagship LS is built on its own platform that is not share with other Toyota product. And the current LS/LC is $70k-$120k.

Toyota goal for FT-1 is $50k-$60k. It would make more sense to use a cheaper S platform that is used for the RC/IS/GS.

[gymratter]

Originally Posted by czar07

I know that bud. The MK1 SC / MK3 Soarer were based off a shortened LS platform.
The GS was also based of the same platform. Therefore a lot of parts are interchangeable between all 4 models.

really? i dont think the MK4 Supra and LS400 had many interchangeable parts, if any.