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Old 04-18-2014, 05:37 PM   #15
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I rarely downshift when coming to a stop, unless it's over a fairly long distance. I just keep the current gear until the engine reaches "idle" RPM level, then put it in neutral. Downshifting to help you slow down and stop is adding wear and tear to your drivetrain. Brakes are very cheap compared to a clutch replacement, so I prefer using those to slow the vehicle down.
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Old 04-18-2014, 05:43 PM   #16
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Down shift to first if its a stop sign . coast in neutral if its a red light
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:00 PM   #17
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I just let the engine slow itself down while in gear. I don't downshift,
just let it spool itself down and go into neutral when it's ~ 800 rpm.
▲ I do this alot when I'm coming down the off ramp,
or when im traveling to a know stop.
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Then again I Heel-toe alot aswell.
You don't have to be racing or be belligerent to heel-toe, just fluidly driving.

One thing I never do is hold the clutch in, and coast.
If you're doing that just clutch in, pull out of gear, clutch out.
I don't sit stationary with the clutch disengaged either.

If you don't think its possible to skirt out the way of an imminent incident,
just because you left the clutch disengaged, and trans out of gear.
Your wrong. (That's my opinion)
It would probably bite you anyway.

Reason saying, is that you wouldn't believe how fast you can -clutch in-gear bang-go-.
When you are being aware.
The timing between this and the above is irrational.

Ohh, not to start a war....
...BUT there's NO reason to double clutch.
Double clutch is ignorant. Go look up ignorant.

Keep driving you'll eventually bind/bond, become one with your transmission/car.

There's more than one way to use the gearbox.
Proper technique is, well... proper technique and there's more than one.
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I downshift/rev match almost all the time I stop, helps saves on brakes
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:14 PM   #19
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I almost always downshift (with rev matching) to slow down the car. If it's done right, the clutch wear shouldn't be that bad, and it really shouldn't hurt the drivetrain. According to the owner's manual, the version of this car with the automatic transmission is set up to downshift and use engine braking to reduce wear on your brakes and to set the car up for acceleration if needed. If they're setting the car up that way, I can't imagine that using engine braking in the manual is going to cause any undue wear on the drivetrain other than clutch wear.

I do have a bad habit of downshifting without touching the brake that will probably get me rear-ended if I don't stop that. I would love to have a brake light button on the back side of the steering wheel that I could hit to signal the idiot not paying attention behind me that I'm slowing, without having to ride the pedal.
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I do have a bad habit of downshifting without touching the brake
I'm in that boat.
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I downshift/rev match almost all the time I stop, helps saves on brakes
Why? Brake pads are cheap compared to clutch/transmission.
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Old 04-18-2014, 06:20 PM   #22
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wut am I reading?

For DDing people actually downshift? I don't think I've ever downshifted just driving around town coming up on a stop light.

cost of brakes < cost of transmission. I've always learned to NEVER, EVER let the engine slow you down (not saying that this has anything to do with downshifting). Completely unnecessary wear on the engine. Brake pads are so cheap
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Why? Brake pads are cheap compared to clutch/transmission.
Why? If you do it correctly you put close to no wear on your clutch/tranny, thats why.
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Why? If you do it correctly you put close to no wear on your clutch/tranny, thats why.
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Why? If you do it correctly you put close to no wear on your clutch/tranny, thats why.
Why do more work when you can simply press the brakes to slow down? To save on brake pads?
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Completely unnecessary wear on the engine.
I don't think that's the case. The engine is moving either way, and it's not producing any power. The fuel is off during engine braking so it isn't washing away oil. I don't see why it would cause any extra wear.

I use engine braking all the time, and I'm about to send my first oil sample off to Blackstone. If it comes back telling me there's too much metal in the oil, maybe I'll reconsider.
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Wow .you people don't downshift
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Why do more work when you can simply press the brakes to slow down? To save on brake pads?
I enjoy it, it takes almost no effort in doing it. Literally it is just bliping the throttle and letting off the clutch, it comes natural to me that I don't even notice myself doing it.



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