Dai Yoshihara's 2014 Falken Tire/Discount Tire Subaru BRZ FD Reveal

[STV3]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

The Formula Drift Manufacturers Championship rules state the motor must come from that manufacturer. This car even though it is sponsored by Subaru, does not qualify, while Ryan Tuerck and Ken Gushi's 2JZ FR-S's do.

I don't know if I'm reading what you wrote wrong but there are plenty of Formula D cars that compete and don't have motors that are from the same manufacturers as their cars.

[Kids Heart]

Originally Posted by Luckrider

If you had to chose a Subaru motor for Formula Drift what would you go with?

FA20 turbo'd.

[Kids Heart]

Originally Posted by STV3

I don't know if I'm reading what you wrote wrong but there are plenty of Formula D cars that compete and don't have motors that are from the same manufacturers as their cars.

Formula D has Driver/Tire/Manufacturer Championships. All of those S chassis with LS motors in them don't earn points for Nissan. If they went with a Toyota V8 or 2JZ there would be an exception because the chassis is also a Toyota (go figure).

http://www.formulad.com/standings/2013.php

scroll to the bottom.

[Mr.]

it no white no more. it grew up and became a race car.

[STV3]

Originally Posted by Kids Heart

Formula D has Driver/Tire/Manufacturer Championships. All of those S chassis with LS motors in them don't earn points for Nissan. If they went with a Toyota V8 or 2JZ there would be an exception because the chassis is also a Toyota (go figure).

http://www.formulad.com/standings/2013.php

scroll to the bottom.

Ahhh ok I got ya

[SciOnDrifTtSlIdeR]

Originally Posted by Luckrider

I have similar feelings, but it is impressive to see. Note that these things are occuring becasue the shell that Subaru has made is as technically impressive (if not more so) than any motor swap.

I think it would be cool to see rules that only allow swaps for blocks from the same manufacturer: IE: Vipers can only have a mopar motor (8.4L v10, 6.4L V8 SRT, 6.4L Ram V8 ect), FR-S can only have the FA-20, 2JZ ect, the BRZ can have the FA20, EJ25 ect. I really want to see a 11+:1 CR e85 Turbo BRZ for formula D revving out to 9000rpm. You would only need 3rd gear and would have all of the torque you need.

if rules like this came to drift we may as well watch nascar... i love the free will ruling on engines in formula d, they have amazing rules and regulations when it comes to tires,chassis,suspension... seeing these cars roll out with a bunch of different engines makes it interesting this brz in question is a show of that... some guys are die hards like dave briggs he runs his s14 on an sr22 @800 whp 700 tq and its nice to see that from him as he is canadian and they only driver who is running an s13/s14 who has not swapped out to a v8 or inline 6... but on the other hand seeing these cars come out with nice v8 swaps aint exactly a bad thing they make power, normally alot cheaper to modify, parts are much easier to come by then lets say a 1jz engine like mats baribeau is running in his jzx90 this year. im happy to see this brz running a v8 turbo its going to smoke tires like no tomorrow and sound aggressive

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[WolfsFang]

I feel like im the only person that dosent care about engine swaps anymore. Im tired of these 2jz and LS swaps, we all know they are amazing engines. I would be more impressed if they worked on the FA20 engine and gave back the community then just swapping a engine that has been in every car known to man. To me, if you toss out the engine on a car that has a good engine, it's like tossing out it's soul.

[Fett4Real]

RSR's car has a NASCAR Toyota V8 doesnt it?

[newports]

Originally Posted by WolfsFang

I feel like im the only person that dosent care about engine swaps anymore. Im tired of these 2jz and LS swaps, we all know they are amazing engines. I would be more impressed if they worked on the FA20 engine and gave back the community then just swapping a engine that has been in every car known to man. To me, if you toss out the engine on a car that has a good engine, it's like tossing out it's soul.

I agree. It's not "that" exciting when I see a car that's been swapped..

I say to my self oh sure I'll just need to drop in a total new engine and tons of work +money for it to sound that good and be fast and waste a total new engine by taking it out. Lol just a generalization, you get the point.

[LeeMaster]

Originally Posted by Superhatch

If you put a 4 cylinder Civic motor in a Veyron, would you still call it a Veyron?

No, it would be called a 'Veyvic'.

[SnapOv3st3r]

Thread made front page...cool.

[LordGoofus]

Have to agree with the general sentiment here. Right from day 1 all I've wanted is to see the FA20 pushed to its limits and see what sort of crazy performance the top tuners can squeeze out of it.

I don't care about a 2JZ swap, or an LS, V8 etc. It's been done thousands of times before, yes we know it's an easy way to make big power but it just feels like the car is now "empty". It has no spirit left. It's just yet another V8 with some random shell put over the top.

I want to see passion, I want to see tuners working hard, identifying weaknesses in the FA20 and showing with pride how they fixed them or worked around the problem. Before D1 used to be exciting because you had V4s, V8s, turbo, n/a, supercharged, fwd, rwd, awd. You'd be amazed at the acceleration of the GTR but your jaw would hit the ground when that little AE86 passed it on the corners through tuning and sheer driver skill. You'd see one driver do a cool little flick to get the car on the right line, then another would come along with a completely different technique and you'd sit there hypothesising on which method was "correct" and how you could replicate it. You'd look at an aristo take on some twisties and think "wow never thought it could do that, I need to find a good tuner and buy that suspension kit".

Now it's just become "smoke, more smoke, ooh look a funny hat, smoke..still smoke, *fireworks!* and now, a word from our sponsor".

[SnapOv3st3r]

Originally Posted by STV3

I don't know if I'm reading what you wrote wrong but there are plenty of Formula D cars that compete and don't have motors that are from the same manufacturers as their cars.

If memory serves me correctly, there is but one true OEM motor inside of the car it came in, and that's Fredric Aasbo's 800hp Scion tC.

All others have engine swaps. I mean if you speak on US only spec. Some could argue that the SR20 came in the JDM spec S chassis, as there is one S chassis with an SR20 in it (but only because his 2jz S chassis had mechanically problems).