FT-86 SpeedFactory Catted UEL Header - Page 101 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

quicksilver30 · 04-02-2014, 04:21 PM

I know its early...but have any of you guys that already have the header installed see any issues with heat since its not wrapped or have any ceramic coating?

JaguarXJ6 · 04-02-2014, 05:39 PM

#4263 checking in, arrived on Monday 31st and I was in middle of the pre-order batch.

My appointment and tune with Evasive is on the 14th so between now and then, I will be doing pre-install videos in and out of the car with my intake and header-back exhaust system. See sig.

Then, same videos in and out of the car on the same road and same speeds after the header. Of course, before/after dynos will be shared. I'm currently pig rich on stock tune with the mods in sig, been waiting for the header before I tune.

TwinturboCamry · 04-02-2014, 06:02 PM

So will this cause a CEL without a tune?

JHarperFRS · 04-02-2014, 06:05 PM

No...it will not. If you've read or followed the thread, @FT-86 SpeedFactory has said that it will not.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

leicaboss · 04-02-2014, 06:12 PM

Excellent, looking forward to hearing some updates.

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaguarXJ6

#4263 checking in, arrived on Monday 31st and I was in middle of the pre-order batch.

My appointment and tune with Evasive is on the 14th so between now and then, I will be doing pre-install videos in and out of the car with my intake and header-back exhaust system. See sig.

Then, same videos in and out of the car on the same road and same speeds after the header. Of course, before/after dynos will be shared. I'm currently pig rich on stock tune with the mods in sig, been waiting for the header before I tune.

nunonuna · 04-02-2014, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaguarXJ6

#4263 checking in, arrived on Monday 31st and I was in middle of the pre-order batch.

My appointment and tune with Evasive is on the 14th so between now and then, I will be doing pre-install videos in and out of the car with my intake and header-back exhaust system. See sig.

Then, same videos in and out of the car on the same road and same speeds after the header. Of course, before/after dynos will be shared. I'm currently pig rich on stock tune with the mods in sig, been waiting for the header before I tune.

Nice~
when you are updating more info, please show us afr before tune~ please~

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

JaguarXJ6 · 04-02-2014, 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nunonuna

Nice~
when you are updating more info, please show us afr before tune~ please~

When I get home I'll show you a before and after dyno that shows me getting to under 10 AFR and lower at redline with my current mods on the stock ECU and tune with about 4k miles. This is from memory when I did the dyno in Feb.

On a completely stock car, it was fine, but the ECU overcompensates, excessively so in my experience, when you increase flow with a full intake and header back.

JaguarXJ6 · 04-02-2014, 11:07 PM

So here is a stock tune (blue line) at 1,500mi and then the black and red after intake, Perrin overpipe, Berk catted front pipe, Perrin 2.5" resonated cat back installed at 3,000mi and dyno'ed with 3,500mi.

Fuel trims were rich under power, but fine under cruise. Now after things are broken in, rich all over the place even on cruise. My mileage is suffering big time putting around Santa Barbara stop light to stop light under 3,500rpms. By a factor of 1-2MPG a gallon worse.

Rev matching I can hear the effect of too much fuel being dumped in from the motor stumbling when I give the accelerator a quick stab instead of rising lazily, but smoothly, like it did when completely stock.

Short term fuel trims in closed loop can only accommodate so much before the fuel and timing tables are too far out of whack for the new flow of the motor. I was hoping to avoid a tune and stay on the stock ECU but you know what, its just the daily and only needs to last me a couple years. Time to go ECUTek!

Luis_GT · 04-02-2014, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JaguarXJ6

So here is a stock tune (blue line) at 1,500mi and then the black and red after intake, Perrin overpipe, Berk catted front pipe, Perrin 2.5" resonated cat back installed at 3,000mi and dyno'ed with 3,500mi.

Fuel trims were rich under power, but fine under cruise. Now after things are broken in, rich all over the place even on cruise. My mileage is suffering big time putting around Santa Barbara stop light to stop light under 3,500rpms. By a factor of 1-2MPG a gallon worse.

Rev matching I can hear the effect of too much fuel being dumped in from the motor stumbling when I give the accelerator a quick stab instead of rising lazily, but smoothly, like it did when completely stock.

Short term fuel trims in closed loop can only accommodate so much before the fuel and timing tables are too far out of whack for the new flow of the motor. I was hoping to avoid a tune and stay on the stock ECU but you know what, its just the daily and only needs to last me a couple years. Time to go ECUTek!

Did you try resetting the ECU by disconecting the battery?

BigFatFlip · 04-03-2014, 12:42 AM

^+1 was about to ask the same thing

Sypher · 04-03-2014, 01:41 AM

look at what i got today. #4264. wont get installed until i get my nameless combo pipe and i'm really debating on getting the header coated.

once i get everything installed it will be FT86SF catted header<Nameless combo pipe with cat and res<FT86SF V1 CBE.

JDogg · 04-03-2014, 01:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sypher

look at what i got today. #4264.

Do you know what number you were in line for the headers? Like for example, I was #22 to order the headers.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Sypher · 04-03-2014, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDogg

Do you know what number you were in line for the headers? Like for example, I was #22 to order the headers.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Based on the initial list someone drew up I was 10th I think but I never did ask FT86SF what number I was

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk

leicaboss · 04-03-2014, 01:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sypher

look at what i got today. #4264. wont get installed until i get my nameless combo pipe and i'm really debating on getting the header coated.

once i get everything installed it will be FT86SF catted header<Nameless combo pipe with cat and res<FT86SF V1 CBE.

Damn son you got yours already!

04-02-2014, 05:39 PM	#1402
JaguarXJ6 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2015 GT-R, 1993.5 Supra, 1995 XJR Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 58 Thanks: 23 Thanked 37 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	#4263 checking in, arrived on Monday 31st and I was in middle of the pre-order batch. My appointment and tune with Evasive is on the 14th so between now and then, I will be doing pre-install videos in and out of the car with my intake and header-back exhaust system. See sig. Then, same videos in and out of the car on the same road and same speeds after the header. Of course, before/after dynos will be shared. I'm currently pig rich on stock tune with the mods in sig, been waiting for the header before I tune. __________________ 2015 GT-R Pearl White with Ivory, Premium \| Stock, DD 1995 Jaguar XJR \| Turquoise Metallic \| I6 4.0L \| Eaton M90, 11psi \| 4L80E \| 1 of 12 of 400 1993.5 Supra Turbo \| Baltic Blue \| 6spd \| 3.77 Torsen LSD \| SP57 \| RPS manifold \| ViPEC V88 \| 525/500rwhp/tq

04-02-2014, 11:07 PM	#1408
JaguarXJ6 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2015 GT-R, 1993.5 Supra, 1995 XJR Location: Santa Barbara, CA Posts: 58 Thanks: 23 Thanked 37 Times in 14 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So here is a stock tune (blue line) at 1,500mi and then the black and red after intake, Perrin overpipe, Berk catted front pipe, Perrin 2.5" resonated cat back installed at 3,000mi and dyno'ed with 3,500mi. Fuel trims were rich under power, but fine under cruise. Now after things are broken in, rich all over the place even on cruise. My mileage is suffering big time putting around Santa Barbara stop light to stop light under 3,500rpms. By a factor of 1-2MPG a gallon worse. Rev matching I can hear the effect of too much fuel being dumped in from the motor stumbling when I give the accelerator a quick stab instead of rising lazily, but smoothly, like it did when completely stock. Short term fuel trims in closed loop can only accommodate so much before the fuel and timing tables are too far out of whack for the new flow of the motor. I was hoping to avoid a tune and stay on the stock ECU but you know what, its just the daily and only needs to last me a couple years. Time to go ECUTek! __________________ 2015 GT-R Pearl White with Ivory, Premium \| Stock, DD 1995 Jaguar XJR \| Turquoise Metallic \| I6 4.0L \| Eaton M90, 11psi \| 4L80E \| 1 of 12 of 400 1993.5 Supra Turbo \| Baltic Blue \| 6spd \| 3.77 Torsen LSD \| SP57 \| RPS manifold \| ViPEC V88 \| 525/500rwhp/tq

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Invidia Catless and Catted Front Pipe - FT-86 SpeedFactory	FT-86 SpeedFactory	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	107	03-29-2016 11:48 AM
catted header or catted front pipe?	gabeg86	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	28	10-13-2015 01:32 PM
P&l EL catted and coated header.	wootwoot	Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons	8	10-11-2013 01:50 AM
Catted UEL Header	Cjymiller	Engine, Exhaust, Transmission	20	05-24-2013 01:01 PM
*Invidia Catted and Catless Front Pipes* - FT-86 SpeedFactory RELEASE SALE	FT-86 SpeedFactory	Engine, Exhaust, Bolt-Ons	12	10-24-2012 11:12 PM

04-02-2014, 04:21 PM	#1401
quicksilver30 Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: '13 LR BRZ Limited\| '07 Jeep GC Location: Ohio Posts: 56 Thanks: 22 Thanked 22 Times in 16 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I know its early...but have any of you guys that already have the header installed see any issues with heat since its not wrapped or have any ceramic coating?

04-02-2014, 06:02 PM	#1403
TwinturboCamry Banned Join Date: Oct 2013 Drives: 4 wheels Location: Canada Posts: 122 Thanks: 7 Thanked 162 Times in 45 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	So will this cause a CEL without a tune?

04-02-2014, 06:05 PM	#1404
JHarperFRS Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S "White Out" Location: Dothan Posts: 69 Thanks: 25 Thanked 19 Times in 15 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	No...it will not. If you've read or followed the thread, @FT-86 SpeedFactory has said that it will not. Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

04-03-2014, 12:42 AM	#1410
BigFatFlip sleep, drive, eat, repeat Join Date: Mar 2012 Drives: '13 BRZ, '12 Outback Location: Sack of Potatoes Posts: 4,431 Thanks: 2,630 Thanked 3,797 Times in 1,981 Posts Mentioned: 188 Post(s) Tagged: 4 Thread(s)	^+1 was about to ask the same thing

04-03-2014, 01:41 AM	#1411
Sypher Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Drives: '13 Ultramarine FR-S M/T Location: Stockton, CA Posts: 230 Thanks: 187 Thanked 104 Times in 71 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	look at what i got today. #4264. wont get installed until i get my nameless combo pipe and i'm really debating on getting the header coated. once i get everything installed it will be FT86SF catted header<Nameless combo pipe with cat and res<FT86SF V1 CBE.

User Name		Remember Me?
Password