Inside Line - BRZ Full Test Review

[Sport-Tech]

Originally Posted by IntenseDVDA

Added Dan Neil's WSJ article

What a dumb review title..."Subaru BRZ: It's Thinker Than You Fast It Is". What humour-impaired headline writer thought this was witty?

[switchlanez]

Skip to 0:39 for a brief mention of the BRZ where they summarize the driver's comments from that Inside Line track test which had no commentary.

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[Sport-Tech]

Inside Line's performance testing is featured in an Autoblog post and the commentariat there are having a field day bashing the car for the usual reasons.

[serialk11r]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Inside Line's performance testing is featured in an Autoblog post and the commentariat there are having a field day bashing the car for the usual reasons.

Looking at a few comments, I think half the commenting people skipped to the comment section after seeing "7.3s". This car will be a very rare sight on the road, that's for sure.

[Xlr8]

Inside Line says they recorded a 69dB at 70MPH with the engine turning 3050 RPM. That's pretty dang quiet. I had an old Ford Escort that the OD went out in that use to turn those kind of RPM numbers and it was no where near that quiet.

[Xlr8]

I have to laugh at all the 0 to 60 banter in this thread. Maybe in my younger days I might have wanted to just focus on 0 to 60 drag racing numbers. But now that a gray hair or two is starting to show I think I much rather enjoy a car that is well controlled with great feel and feed back. One that handles like it's on rails and communicates what's going on at the corners.
When people who make their living reviewing cars heap the kind of praise on a car like they are this car then I think it's about more than just 0 to 60 times. If they are comparing this car to a Porsche anything then this car was put together right. And the fact that I can go buy a new one for the price of a 6 year old Cayman. That makes me happy.
If I was worried about 0 to 60 times I'd go get a Busa.

[S2kphile]

Originally Posted by Scion FR-S

Inside Line's performance testing is featured in an Autoblog post and the commentariat there are having a field day bashing the car for the usual reasons.

Numerous people prefer paper performance and don't care one bit about a properly focused driven car. These people who comment probably won't drive or can't afford one and they like to bash anything that doesn't meet their paper criteria. Everyone is a critic

[Captain Snooze]

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Robert Parker has rated the DRC 1986 Romanée-Conti 94/100. It cost around 8,000 euro/$10,000 a bottle depending on where you purchase it from. Now, there is no way i'm paying 10k for a bottle of wine but look at the rating Parker gives it: 94/100. Tell me, what does that number tell you about the wine? Nothing. It describes nothing. It is just a rating.

How do you measure seat of the pants? How about steering feel? If all you are chasing are numbers then, and I know it's been said before, this is not the car for you.
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[MrBonus]

Originally Posted by S2kphile

Numerous people prefer paper performance and don't care one bit about a properly focused driven car. These people who comment probably won't drive or can't afford one and they like to bash anything that doesn't meet their paper criteria. Everyone is a critic

The irony is that many of these people don't have the slightest clue what is involved with driving a car near its limits anyway.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Gotcha. I think you will like the BRZ based on your comments in the past. I think the money saved would be worth it (either put into the car, save for a rainy day, take a nice vacation...etc). Plus tires will be cheaper on the BRZ.

I understand your past history with the Camaro. So you will have to take that into account. But I would rather have the view closer to a F22 than a Cessna.

I'm about 95% there with the FR-S (I'm one of the First 86), and if it drives as described I'm pretty much over the top with it. The price and fuel economy were my other two checkpoints and they are as I expected. I actually prefer the FR-S because I really don't care about the equipment (HIDs/NAV/Etc) that different between the FR-S and BRZ.

As far as the price differential, I'm considering two things, swapping out the 288K mile V6 in my Chevy Astro with a small block V8 (its a near direct swap) once it hits 300K later this year and/or using the remainder towards a good Cessna 182.

On the other hand, maybe I'll just save it all for a down payment on the F-22. They build them about 10 miles from my house so no destination charges.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Xlr8

I have to laugh at all the 0 to 60 banter in this thread. Maybe in my younger days I might have wanted to just focus on 0 to 60 drag racing numbers. But now that a gray hair or two is starting to show I think I much rather enjoy a car that is well controlled with great feel and feed back. One that handles like it's on rails and communicates what's going on at the corners.
When people who make their living reviewing cars heap the kind of praise on a car like they are this car then I think it's about more than just 0 to 60 times. If they are comparing this car to a Porsche anything then this car was put together right. And the fact that I can go buy a new one for the price of a 6 year old Cayman. That makes me happy.
If I was worried about 0 to 60 times I'd go get a Busa.

That is how many of us feel. Maybe why the targeted audience is a bit older/more mature?

[Gearbanger]

Judge the BRZ on its acceleration alone and you'll be disappointed.

I think that says it all.

[S2kphile]

Originally Posted by MrBonus

The irony is that many of these people don't have the slightest clue what is involved with driving a car near its limits anyway.

The best analogy to use is go-karts. Go-karts are as fun as hell to drive even though they pack 5-20HP for the smaller ones. Those you can drive to the limit and still feel in control. That's what this car is about focused fun driving and people would probably change their minds to they have a chance to properly drive one.

I haven't driven one myself but from the reviews I'm delighted since the last car I owned that was driver focused was the S2000 and that is one car I wish I still had and will probably pick one up in the future that is if I can find an un-molested/stock one.

[sirus]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

Cool story.






No it doesn't. Airbag sensors are generally stored under the headlights for collisions. Nothing to do with your seat. I've been driving for 18yrs. In that 18yrs, I've had one incident where I rear ended someone. If I get into an accident to need medical attention, it wouldn't be my insurance that would be covering me. It would be the person at faults insurance.

Side note: Progressive allows $5k extra for coverage for modifications to my Scion tC. Why allow a policy like that only to try and deny coverage?

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Oh yes it does.

Ok kids... Front sensors are generally for frontal collisions. Side sensors for side on collisions... Some cars have units in the center of the vehicle to determine the force of the impact and also the direction to decide which air bags to deploy. So side or seat air bags MAY NOT deploy in a front on collision.