Considering BRZ and ‘15 Mustang

[stock]

Originally Posted by trogdor007

I've never heard that term before , but aren't all cars belly button cars at the end of the day? I mean almost all cars are mass produced, but some sell better than others. Plus the Mustang is reaching 50 years of production.

Some cars gather lint?

[OICU812]

Originally Posted by trogdor007

I've never heard that term before , but aren't all cars belly button cars at the end of the day? I mean almost all cars are mass produced, but some sell better than others. Plus the Mustang is reaching 50 years of production.

Never heard the belly button analogy? Lol (everyone has one)

Unless I drive a few hours away I will not see a BRZ or a FRS. While in ten minutes downtown in my little town I'll see half a dozen Mustangs. 50years means 50 years pumping em out hence their visibility everywhere. If the twins are made half that long sure there will be many, many more out however for now they're much more rare and I like that personally. In closest city of over a million people in a entire day I'm lucky to see maybe 2-3 FRS/BRZ all awhile I'll lose count of Mustangs, Vettes, Porsches etc...
In my small city of 10k people I'm only one here with this car, while in my sub division alone there are 16 Mustangs, 3 GTRs, 1R8, 4 Vettes... Anyhow you get the idea...

A mustang while I don't dislike is not a tuners car, one of the biggest reasons aside from look I purchased the twins is the ability to make it yours. If you consider the amount of modifications interior and exterior already available (now) it's mind blowing really.

Here's a suggestion goto any popular Mustang forum take a look at member journal/galleries spend an hour looking. Then come here do same tell me which car is more individualized and can truly look "so different", I think you'll then understand that point.

I can't tell you how many times last summer my car was thought to be something Euro or exotic, people wanted to talk about it while all along it's just a twin. In mustang all the years I had them no one cared or even created much conversation and they were all pretty pimped out as well. It's not an attention thing I could care less, however it's nice not having something half world has and also I love that I can even appreciate a fully stock BRZ/FRS as much as one with 30k mods that's a hard appreciation to have with many other cars on the road.

If you like the Mustang get it by all means. Just sharing some personal opinion. And ya personal opinions are like belly buttons and assholes to everyone has one.

[trogdor007]

Originally Posted by stock

Some cars gather lint?

Only if you let em. Maybe I'll get mine pierced.

[Purdue FR-S]

I would also argue it depends what type of in-car experience you want.

Are you the type of person who needs to be entertained and values flashy features? Ford has a very strong focus on providing all sorts of (in my opinion) gimmicky in-car tech features. Voice command, sat nav, heated and cooled seats, autosense wipers, four different driving modes which don't alter the suspension, and an assortment of other problems waiting to happen.

I guess the FR-S is more spartan than the BRZ, but it offers what I need (ability to connect my phone via bluetooth) and not much more. I find the extra features annoying, but the majority of US consumers value them.

I've been up close and personal with the 2015 Mustang and it is still a GIANT car compared to the twins. If you don't mind the size, no problem. If you find brute acceleration more exhilarating than razor edge control, you might be better off with the 5.0 (it's a wonderful engine!)

On the other hand, if cost is an issue ... there are bound to be numerous 2014 GT's sitting on the lot with marginal performance differences and large incentives. Just a thought.

Best of luck

[italy7]

Originally Posted by GreenMonster

Those 2 cars are on the top of my list...

I'm in no rush to buy a car, but I'll be buying something in the next year. I'm waiting for the 2015 Brz details to come out since '15 production starts in May.

I'm really leaning towards a BRZ since it offers a great bang for the buck. Thousands less than the Mustang is expected to be priced at. The Mustang with the ecoboost looks interesting too... but at what price.

I'm just waiting on the details for both 2015 models...

I'll probably end up in a 2014 BRZ limited unless the 2015's offer some significant upgrades from the 2014 (and not small stuff like kneepads and rear center armrest).

Let's go in together for the BRZ and get a great deal

[trogdor007]

Originally Posted by Purdue FR-S

I would also argue it depends what type of in-car experience you want.

Are you the type of person who needs to be entertained and values flashy features? Ford has a very strong focus on providing all sorts of (in my opinion) gimmicky in-car tech features. Voice command, sat nav, heated and cooled seats, autosense wipers, four different driving modes which don't alter the suspension, and an assortment of other problems waiting to happen.

I guess the FR-S is more spartan than the BRZ, but it offers what I need (ability to connect my phone via bluetooth) and not much more. I find the extra features annoying, but the majority of US consumers value them.

I've been up close and personal with the 2015 Mustang and it is still a GIANT car compared to the twins. If you don't mind the size, no problem. If you find brute acceleration more exhilarating than razor edge control, you might be better off with the 5.0 (it's a wonderful engine!)

On the other hand, if cost is an issue ... there are bound to be numerous 2014 GT's sitting on the lot with marginal performance differences and large incentives. Just a thought.

Best of luck

I wouldn't say I need to be entertained or have flashy features per se, but I do appreciate some level of tech and luxury. Personally, I like what Ford's doing with the tech - my mom's got the foot-activated lift thing (obviously not on the Mustang) on her Escape and I think it's pretty neat/useful. I thought the driving mode/steering adjustments they discussed on the 2015 were pretty neat. I saw it at the Chicago Auto Show and I don't think the size is too bad. I mean it's certainly no BRZ, but I could live with it. I think it's a big improvement over the 2014, but it's a while out before they'll go up for sale.

[strat61caster]

Honestly, go for test drives again, for me it was a no brainer after the first corner.

The new Mustang isn't loosing as much weight as was rumored, maybe 100-200 lbs at this point which is still in the neighborhood of 600 lbs heavier than a Toyobaru. I'll pick light and slow over heavy and fast any day.

[Model Citizen]

As a holder of ford stock I support any decision you may make that includes the blue oval.

Buy ford


Thanks

[Purdue FR-S]

Originally Posted by trogdor007

Personally, I like what Ford's doing with the tech - my mom's got the foot-activated lift thing (obviously not on the Mustang) on her Escape and I think it's pretty neat/useful.

Ugh!! hahaha it bothers me how much people like this feature! I just don't understand why it's so cool lol.

Same thing with the fobless entry, and starting the car with the key in your pocket. Just so gimmicky! :P

Take all that effort and apply it to what it's like to drive the thing ... simplify it.

/end_rant

yeah if the size is something you can live with then no problem there. I was just astonished at how large it was despite it "getting smaller". I can literally go stand next to the 2015 Mustang on my lunch break. Or right now.

[trogdor007]

Originally Posted by Purdue FR-S

Ugh!! hahaha it bothers me how much people like this feature! I just don't understand why it's so cool lol.

Same thing with the fobless entry, and starting the car with the key in your pocket. Just so gimmicky! :P

Take all that effort and apply it to what it's like to drive the thing ... simplify it.

/end_rant

yeah if the size is something you can live with then no problem there. I was just astonished at how large it was despite it "getting smaller". I can literally go stand next to the 2015 Mustang on my lunch break. Or right now.

I say it's safe to say you're a low-tech guy. I don't see the gimmick in making our lives a little simpler with smart technology like that, but to each his own. Are you at an auto show or something?

[Purdue FR-S]

I'm sitting about 100 yards from Ford's World Headquarters

[trogdor007]

Originally Posted by Purdue FR-S

I'm sitting about 100 yards from Ford's World Headquarters

I assume you work for Ford or one of its partners? That must be interesting driving an FR-S so close to their HQ. I hope nobody's scratched up your ride.

[Purdue FR-S]

Originally Posted by trogdor007

I assume you work for Ford or one of its partners? That must be interesting driving an FR-S so close to their HQ. I hope nobody's scratched up your ride.

Nah, only UAW people have that sort of mentality. There are plenty of IT contractors that drive competitor vehicles to work here everyday.

I feel better knowing I'm not the asshole pulling up in a Camaro ... or Impala.

If you show me what Ford vehicle provides the same dynamics as the twins I'll happily go buy one today

If only Ford still partnered with Mazda ...

[trogdor007]

Originally Posted by Purdue FR-S

Nah, only UAW people have that sort of mentality. There are plenty of IT contractors that drive competitor vehicles to work here everyday.

I feel better knowing I'm not the asshole pulling up in a Camaro ... or Impala.

If you show me what Ford vehicle provides the same dynamics as the twins I'll happily go buy one today

If only Ford still partnered with Mazda ...

That's good that nobody messes with your car. I think pulling up in a Silverado would be the ultimate slap in the face. I've heard good things about the ST's. Did you ever test out those?