Factory Service Manual hard-copy?

[pasternak]

Originally Posted by HubertK

To print 5009 pages in your local copying place its going to cost really close to the $450 mark or even more.

It's also an environmental crime.

[Target70]

I only paid about $75 for a hardcopy FSM for my 240sx. I don't have a laptop/tablet, and have to do my maintenance at my dad's garage. So I would perfer a book, to checking the DIY pages, and printing out fluid types, part numbers, and torque specs, all ahead of time. I'll probably end up printing out one section at a time, but I get the same problem with the digital copy as this guy:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=41

So I don't know if there is a better digital version, or if the information is top secret.

[extrashaky]

Originally Posted by Target70

I only paid about $75 for a hardcopy FSM for my 240sx.

But how old was it at the time?

I paid $45 for the FSM for my Jeep XJ, but the truck was several years old at the time, and there were hundreds of thousands of them on the road. I think when it was originally published it was around $400 new. As more and more of them hit the second-hand market, the prices came down.

You won't find a manual that cheap for this car now, because it's still too new. In five years, after a bunch of people have bought them, crashed or sold their cars and put the manuals up on eBay, I doubt it will cost you more than $100.

Originally Posted by kthxbai

@mav1178 statement is true...however there are companies that produce repair/maintenance manuals, ie Haynes.

I haven't seen a Haynes manual yet that didn't suck, and they seem to have gotten worse as the years go on. I had one for my S10 and have one for my current Jeep, and they're both useless. Chilton used to publish a better aftermarket manual, but really nothing compares to the FSM.

[Target70]

about 10 years old.

[LavosTRD]

2 day subscription is only $15
Access to all the info we do
https://techinfo.toyota.com/techInfo.../Register.aspx

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by LavosTRD

2 day subscription is only $15
Access to all the info we do
https://techinfo.toyota.com/techInfo.../Register.aspx

Yes, exactly what the parts counter guy told me their techs use. $1200 yearly subscription (Canada).

I guess it's best to just print off what you need in the PDF file. It's still nice to have a hard copy to browse through though.

[LavosTRD]

just subscribe to the us version

[BobRickel]

I spoke with my local dealer about a FSM. He told me I had to order it from Helm inc. They print the FSM's for most of the manufacturers. I checked with their web site and it did not list one for the FRS. I have the same problems with downloadable PDF"s being hard to use. I am also looking for a hard copy.

[Frishkorn]

Originally Posted by LavosTRD

2 day subscription is only $15
Access to all the info we do
https://techinfo.toyota.com/techInfo.../Register.aspx

Are you able to download copies in that two day period, or can you only browse?

[GreenMonster]

Originally Posted by BobRickel

I spoke with my local dealer about a FSM. He told me I had to order it from Helm inc. They print the FSM's for most of the manufacturers. I checked with their web site and it did not list one for the FRS. I have the same problems with downloadable PDF"s being hard to use. I am also looking for a hard copy.

Yeah, Helms only has the owners manual and not the service manual for FRS. Nothing for BRZ.

For my Acura, I was able to buy the SM right away for like $75 IIRC.