2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[roningtmo]

Originally Posted by Spaceywilly

Not really. Here's a quick thing I whipped up comparing the BRZ/FRS to other cars it will be competing with:



In the price range, only the GC has better HP/LB, but it weighs 592lbs more which will definitely affect handling. I would put the WRX in the same category as faster but also too heavy, and it's also more expensive.

Nice chart Spaceywilly but remenber that the others car data are base in real test, we have to wait anyways for a road test to actually get a real picture of the car, but honestly the lack of torque on early rpm are gonna afect big time performance

[Zgrinch]

Originally Posted by dt808

Not sure if anyone posted this before, but if someone did.. my bad. My first post on the forum.

But this is the email I got from my local Las Vegas Subaru Dealership regarding the BRZ. Take what you want from it.

The 2013 BRZ is a very well exciting and well engineered car. We are pleased to have the opportunity to sell the BRZ at our dealership. It is available in the Premium or Limited model. The Limited comes with leather upholstery. This car comes equipped with a either a 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic transmission. It will produce 200 horsepower. At this time we are able to pre sell these vehicles prior to delivery. It would require a $2500 refundable deposit with a first right of refusal. If you pre order one now it would be 90 to 120 days before it would arrive at our dealership. Prices range from $27,000 to $30,000 plus title, tax and fees. There will also be a Subaru of Las Vegas' Assurance package with 2 years/24,000 Carefree Maintenance included plus PULSE, a safer braking technology. Window tint with a lifetime warranty and lifetime oil changes will be included. The total price of this Assurance package is $1185. The standard charge for this package is $2185.00 As a new car owner you will receive a discount of $1000. A fair market premium of $2500 will be added to the price of the vehicle due to very limited availability. We have only been alloted 21 of these cars for this year.

It's here. Suggest you read the whole thread to educate yourself on the slimy dealers. Thanks for posting.

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showp...&postcount=175

[roningtmo]

Originally Posted by witchatookie

Dude if you buy a velocetor, genesis coupe, mini, or a mustang over the 86 you will be kicking yourself in five years when everyone is having fun without you.

Bro honestly i will hold until road test star coming out, i have enough for a generous downpayment but rigth now the fr-s fall to the botton of my list.

[Snoopyalien24]

This is exactly what happen

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[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dragonitti

No way HID's, Nav and other standard options are going to only set you back $300-500. Especially not from the stealership.

You will probably end up surprised and shocked when the price difference comes out. Won't be as large as you are expecting.

[titusdrake]

Originally Posted by Verge

Seems like for most people the sweet spot for this car is 22.5-23.5 makes sense considering its the base model.

P.s maybe toyota should have spent less money building concepts that we were never going to get and saved us all some extra money.

[titusdrake]

Originally Posted by dt808

Not sure if anyone posted this before, but if someone did.. my bad. My first post on the forum.

But this is the email I got from my local Las Vegas Subaru Dealership regarding the BRZ. Take what you want from it.

The 2013 BRZ is a very well exciting and well engineered car. We are pleased to have the opportunity to sell the BRZ at our dealership. It is available in the Premium or Limited model. The Limited comes with leather upholstery. This car comes equipped with a either a 6 speed manual or 6 speed automatic transmission. It will produce 200 horsepower. At this time we are able to pre sell these vehicles prior to delivery. It would require a $2500 refundable deposit with a first right of refusal. If you pre order ione now it would be 90 to 120 days before it would arrive at our dealership. Prices range from $27,000 to $30,000 plus title, tax and fees. There will also be a Subaru of Las Vegas' Assurance package with 2 years/24,000 Carefree Maintenance included plus PULSE, a safer braking technology. Window tint with a lifetime warranty and lifetime oil changes will be included. The total price of this Assurance package is $1185. The standard charge for this package is $2185.00 As a new car owner you will receive a discount of $1000. A fair market premium of $2500 will be added to the price of the vehicle due to very limited availability. We have only been alloted 21 of these cars for this year.

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LOL subaru and toyota really hoping hype wins over common sense eh? For 32 you could get a sti...or its just your individual dealer skrewing you. Luckily trueprice prevents dealers from adding on bullshit charges... But even my scion dealer told me that if i dont buy it they will.. Thrn they will put it on their used car lot so that they can raise the price.. Ugh goddamn dealership money grabbing jerks

[Draco-REX]

Paying above MSRP? You know what they say about a Fool and his money.

I can't believe people are falling for that...

[86fanatic]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

You will probably end up surprised and shocked when the price difference comes out. Won't be as large as you are expecting.

Well it's pretty much a given one of you will be surprised and shocked

[fatoni]

Originally Posted by OldSkoolToys

Sounds like the bean-counters in the head office won the debate on pricing. Exactly where are the price savings coming from on bringing Subaru into the mix on this car?

/end rant

I'll just wait on one to hit the used lot with sub 10k miles. Good friend is the sales manager at the local Toyota used lot anyways.

Edit: Heh...a brand new GT-S back in 1985 was ~12,000...thats $25,000 in today's money.

Oh Scion, you clever dogs you.

Too bad the corolla was crazy overpriced then

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

This is simply incorrect. Inflation has been held at a constant value since the great depression to avoid very damaging deflationary periods. Deflation generally coincides with very harmful "bust" cycles in the economy.

Recent inflation is also consistent with past years, despite the sky is falling crowd.

http://data.bls.gov/pdq/SurveyOutput...me=CU_cpibrief

You're kidding, right? How can you possibly believe there has been no inflation in the past 80 years? The price of nearly everything has gone up significantly over the years and we've been "printing" trillions of dollars. Of course the CPI is going to look stable because the government constantly changes the way it measures it so it doesn't look as bad.

And what do you think caused the stock market and housing collapses? They were bubbles caused from inflation and mal-investments by the government.

[fistpoint]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Which is not something that you can predict on a new car. Good luck. I would rather have a low cost of entry. I am >25 yo so insurance won't affect me. Also don't live in a high crime city with high auto thefts.

I'm 38 and the Scion tC is more expensive to insure than a Corvette. I was quoted $160+ a month from 5 of the biggest insurance companies around. A Civic Si is around $125-140 a month too.

Not being married is what is screwing my rates over. 3 of the 5 told me being married would cut the cost by around 40-45%.

Originally Posted by Snoopyalien24

They wanted to make it "affordable", but lots of people are going to end up paying +$400 a month! Das cra

God I hope not.

People need to learn what down payments are for. If they can't afford a good down payment, they can't afford the car. For a $25k car, consider a bare minimum of $4-5k down. Anything less is silly unless you get a less than 1% APR.

[TOYSTRY]

Originally Posted by Dark

How to make it look cheaper than 25K? subtract 70bucks.

Thanks for the laugh!

[dori.]

Originally Posted by fistpoint

I'm 38 and the Scion tC is more expensive to insure than a Corvette. I was quoted $160+ a month from 5 of the biggest insurance companies around. A Civic Si is around $125-140 a month too.

Not being married is what is screwing my rates over. 3 of the 5 told me being married would cut the cost by around 40-45%.

yeah but there's the whole thing about finding someone to spend your life with and the cost of the ceremony

sounds A LOT harder than paying $150/mo