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Old 03-21-2012, 11:59 PM   #15
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335i is a car with zero personality. It is a highway cruiser. Put your foot down, go forward really fast. Just a car that doesn't appeal to me at all.

None of us have driven an FRS yet, but it's going to be a much more involving experience. It will be more sensitive to driver inputs, you will feel the road and what's going on, and I think it will bring you into the experience of driving and having fun while driving much more.

Of course maintenance costs and the worry free ownership experience is just the icing on the cake.
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:00 AM   #16
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Why would you step down instead of stepping up? Keep
Stepping down based on what, brand snobbery? BMW lost the plot years ago as pure drivers cars. The 335i is a nice insulated GT, but if the OP wants something legit involving, then he'd be stepping up in terms of driver/machine oneness.

If you need to buy a recent BMW that's interesting to drive, you need a facelifted 1st-gen Z4, E46 ZHP, Z4//M Coupe. I haven't driven a 1/M, but if it resembles the feeling of a 135i, it'd be a mess.
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:12 AM   #17
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Stepping down based on what, brand snobbery? BMW lost the plot years ago as pure drivers cars. The 335i is a nice insulated GT, but if the OP wants something legit involving, then he'd be stepping up in terms of driver/machine oneness.

If you need to buy a recent BMW that's interesting to drive, you need a facelifted 1st-gen Z4, E46 ZHP, Z4//M Coupe. I haven't driven a 1/M, but if it resembles the feeling of a 135i, it'd be a mess.
Brand snobbery, "I know it all what car is fun to drive" snobbery, what's the difference?
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Old 03-22-2012, 12:14 AM   #18
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E90 owner here, interested in both models but more BRZ due to standard HIDs.
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if you lease cars to change em' out like people change clothes BMW is the way to go. otherwise have fun paying out the nose in post warranty expenses.
Sadly this is true. They just don't make them like they used to, and with "ultimate service" (aka extended intervals) many are neglected. Often I see E46's leather interiors that are more worn and tattered than an E30 some twenty years older!

Having said that, I don't see it as a move down -- perhaps just in a different direction. Neither is better or worse, just fills a different space.
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The FRS/BRZ is slower, gets about the same mileage, has less space, uses crappier materials, and has less options.

I'd definitely get the FRS!
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The FRS/BRZ is slower, gets about the same mileage, has less space, uses crappier materials, and has less options.

I'd definitely get the FRS!
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It's a preference thing but personally I would go for the 86. I autocrossed an E90 for a season and I just couldn't stand how it felt compared to my other options at the time (stock MR-2 and STS prepped 240SX). The BMW felt too big and numb for my liking. Consider the other factors mentioned like repair costs and I think the 86 is a reasonable choice but definitely give it a test drive if/when possible and see how you feel about it.
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I'd keep the 335i for a while. The Zx6 is a nice car for the car enthusiasts, but, having seen it and tried it, it is a bad car if you want a in general nice car. The car feels very cheap, though it is not that cheap at 30.000 €. If you go to track, do races, then yes get it, if you still need comfort, and gadgets, good interior quality, keep the 335i. Till then you may think about an some other new BMW like the 2 Series.
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I'm a little surprised at how many people complain that German cars are that expensive to maintain. My current car (2004 C320) has over 125k clocked on it and I do all my work on it myself. Only had minor issues so far (alternator just went out) and all have been inexpensive to fix.

German cars, like any car are not that expensive if YOU DO THE WORK YOURSELF. Dont complain if you take it to the dealer as dealer service is expensive anywhere.
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The FRS/BRZ is slower, gets about the same mileage, has less space, uses crappier materials, and has less options.

I'd definitely get the FRS!
Looking at the FRS/BRZ purely by what's on paper misses the point of this car. It is supposed to be fun to drive. I would agree with you if the car drove like the others you've listed but from all the reviews so far it's a fantastic car to drive. Base purchasing purely on price I would actually buy a used Boxster/Cayman than any you've listed.
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