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Old 03-20-2014, 04:18 PM   #183
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Wow. Group buy on an unproven product already? Damn.
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Wow. Group buy on an unproven product already? Damn.
How many group buys have there been on products that add little or no performance increase(I.e. About every intake made so far)?
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Old 03-20-2014, 04:31 PM   #185
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How many group buys have there been on products that add little or no performance increase(I.e. About every intake made so far)?
Yeah, car "enthusiasts" aren't particularly smart.
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Old 03-20-2014, 05:16 PM   #186
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If gains are even half of what Crawford mentionned and are kept even after adjustement on an un-tuned car, this is worth it.

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Old 03-20-2014, 06:33 PM   #187
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turns out my car is being used for independent testing of this power block.

Will advise more info later. Should be tested today.

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turns out my car is being used for independent testing of this power block.

Will advise more info later. Should be tested today.

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Too many group buys popping up now. Want to cancel my order since I don't think they have shipped yet anyway... Would rather not pay full pop...
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"0 to 40 = 10% off
40 to 80 = 15% off
80 to 100 = 20% off"

So if we can organise 1250 buyers they are 100% off?
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lol ^ interested in the 3rd party dyno results
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"0 to 40 = 10% off
40 to 80 = 15% off
80 to 100 = 20% off"

So if we can organise 1250 buyers they are 100% off?
20%? Imagine the margins Crawford must be making on these...
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20%? Imagine the margins Crawford must be making on these...
They're a business.
Imagine the cost of insurance,wages,raw materials,rent,wear and tear on machinery,bank interest.
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20%? Imagine the margins Crawford must be making on these...
It can be applicable to any company.

Example:

5Zigen exhaust systems were made 100% in Japan. The MSRP for a catback system 15 years ago was around $400-750+, depending on the version of exhaust.

Landed cost? Less than 50% of MSRP.

Hell, look at Intel Corporation. Their gross margin margin is in the neighborhood of 50-60% of total revenue. If you price a product right and make/market it properly, you can sell it for almost any price you want.

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haha... not sure if I can post any concrete results even after testing, the parts didn't arrive today.

Should be able to test within next day or two... it should be noted that a reputable publication (can't say who yet) is testing this, so it won't be any BS.

Whatever findings will just be added into the pool of knowledge.

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