2013 Scion FR-S Priced at $24,200 ($24,930 after destination)

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Frost

Look at the TOTAL MSRP = $25,125

Total wins - all the time.

You really are being thick headed. You said "At $24,200 USD - it undercuts the base Genesis 2.0T by just under $1k" which just is not based on any truth. They will be basically the same price. MSRP. MSRP + delivery. Whatever you want to base it off of.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Dimman

Car price envy? Tax envy? Heh...

Yeah I feel bad for you guys, especially with Subaru pricing. Plus the taxes/fees you pay for your new cars.

[Dadhawk]

Originally Posted by 86fanatic

To expand, you can get a 5 year CD with 1.8% interest. If you can land a car loan for less then 1.8%, which is very possible in today's environment with good credit, you are throwing money away by using cash to buy:

http://www.bankrate.com/funnel/cd-in....aspx?prods=19

it needs to be less enough to account for income tax rate, not just less. To see the entire picture you have to take that into account.

Also I don't really consider paying someone interest is using their money as some have said. Its the same with mortgages and folks that say you should have one to reduce taxes. I don't care about taxes I care about cost. Giving the bank a dollar to. save giving the government 30 cents is short sighted. I'll give the 30 cents instead anytime and keep the extra 70 cents.

In the end you aren't dumb or crazy for paying cash or taking out a loan as long as neither puts you in harms way. I prefer cash, you prefer loans, its all good.

[PSound]

Originally Posted by tripjammer

My dealer just sent me pricing. It's official! I am gonna check scion's twitter feed!

Did he send option prices?

[FT-86Mike]

Originally Posted by harajukukei

this is a good price if the dealer will put the toyota badges on it.

THIS IS TRUE!

[blu_]

Even with DPH, the starting price is still under $25,000!

So MSRP with delivery will be $24930 for most states and $2505 for the south... LOOKS LIKE SCION LIED IN THAT EMAIL. For shame.

[track_warrior]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

You really are being thick headed. You said "At $24,200 USD - it undercuts the base Genesis 2.0T by just under $1k" which just is not based on any truth. They will be basically the same price. MSRP. MSRP + delivery. Whatever you want to base it off of.

Difference is you can prob get a hyundai 1-2k off msrp. And we wont be able to negotiate because dealers know they have us by the balls.

[Capt Canuck]

Originally Posted by harajukukei

this is a good price if the dealer will put the toyota badges on it.

Originally Posted by FT-86Mike

THIS IS TRUE!

Audi dealers love guys like you.

[Matador]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

Base GC 2.0T starts at $24,250. So FRS is basically the same price as the GC 2.0T base.

So... pardon my ignorance, DPH does not include a destination charge that still has to be added to the GC's msrp?

Originally Posted by DommerEOD

$24,200.... that hurts.

Used prices should be nice in a year or so.

Don't count on that.

Originally Posted by subatoy

wow! marketing got to you good huh?!

He's completely right. The FR-S was built form the ground up with the intent of being a sports car. Neither car be sid of the GC or veloster.

[DantKR]

I swear some people on these forums are either way too rich for their own good or just talk like they have a ton of money. I can easily afford 24,200(w/e 27k). My Legacy cost more than that. Most of us that are disappointed with the price have been here longer and have known about the car longer than most around here.

Funny those saying that "oh it's just 2k more". At what point do you stop? Oh but that's just 2k more than the 2k more than the 2k more... Are you guys willing to pay 3k mark up, you know, just because it's 2k more.

For me it's about weather or not the car is worth the value for 24,200. Guess we'll find out when we get to test drive if it's worth it or not.

[tripjammer]

Originally Posted by PSound

Did he send option prices?

No pricing on options. But I will ask him.

[tranzformer]

Originally Posted by Zgrinch

I would agree with this line of thinking in most cases, but given the economy, sometimes people look at it from the "security factor" of not havng any car payment, or other types of outstanding payments, so this can occasionally play a role in the decision process, if they put a high value on security.

It really depends on each individuals particular situation, but I do however agree that this makes a ton of sense.

For myself, more security in having cash reserve rather than paying a car outright. Much easier to have access to money when you have it as cash in a savings account or CD vs. having to take out a personal loan in an emergency or use CC debt which is even worse.

[Bristecom]

Originally Posted by tranzformer

This car is going to be on a long production cycle. Think closer to 7-10 years before the 2nd gen. Lowers cost.

Secondly, this car was a joint project between TMC and FHI. Automatically cuts costs to 50/50 60/40 or whatever it was. Lowers cost.

Thirdly, the car uses many off the shelf parts shared with other cars already in production. Lowers cost.

FHI already had assembly line capable of producing the car without having to build a new plant. Lowers cost.

Yeah, but unfortunately, you have figure in inflation. It'll likely stay about the same or maybe even go a little higher in the coming years.

[tankd0g]

Originally Posted by ahausheer

Sounds believable, undercuts 2013 gen coup (barely), after all is said and done the out of pocket expense is over 27K, way to high for me but ill bet the broader market will accept it. Veloster turbo just started looking slightly better.

Have you heard anything about a LSD option/standard on that thing? 195ft/lbs of torque and an open diff sounds like a big mess.