heated seats

[extraholes]

Originally Posted by debs0712

They left both controls and they are installed on the console between the shifter and cup holders. It does look nice.

Funny, thats were i wanted the switches, but were told they don't fit there. My guess is that my aftermarket switches are very different than the ones you got.

Here is a pic

[Sasquachulator]

yeah looks like an aftermarket solution for sure.

cloth seats dont really need heat or cool functionality IMO.

BRZ has it cuz their seat is leather/alcantara.

[CozmoNz]

Originally Posted by debs0712

Heated seats are not a Scion option. The dealer offered them and had them installed before I picked up the car. Very good point that the BRZ offers heated seats!!!!

I will make sure that they compensate me. The dealer has been very nice and is taking responsibility for the error/problem.

Scion being Toyota....

Toyota puts heated seats into the GTS Models. This may be because of the swap over with the "wrong side of the car driving" syndrome :P.

[Bounce]

Originally Posted by nix

They left heated seats in for the Aus market, bit of a strange move, with our weather they are unnecessary here. But yeah you can source them from jdm/Aus/eu Toyota 86s as well.

Hey speak for yourself! I need all the heat I can get in the mornings! it's freezing!

[nadamz]

Originally Posted by Bounce

Hey speak for yourself! I need all the heat I can get in the mornings! it's freezing!

Same.. the -3c temps in Canberra at 8am requires heated seating.

[Saber_TRD]

Originally Posted by debs0712

They removed the heated seat on the passenger side of my car last week. They claimed that there was no other way to fix the problem with the air bag sensor. My car was the 1st Fr-S for the heated seats and they said that they were only informed afterwards by Scion that a heated seat should not be installed in the passenger side. They left both controls and they are installed on the console between the shifter and cup holders. It does look nice.

Ok, but was it the OEM heaters and switches? As seen in my linked pic or CozmoNz post?

Originally Posted by CozmoNz

Scion being Toyota....

Toyota puts heated seats into the GTS Models. This may be because of the swap over with the "wrong side of the car driving" syndrome :P.

I won't get into the differences between Scion and Toyota... but just know that Scion is a stripped down version. They don't offer the leather/alcantara seats, which is the only way to get the seat heaters. Among other things.

Originally Posted by nadamz

Same.. the -3c temps in Canberra at 8am requires heated seating.

Try the -40 Canadian winters, ass heaters required.

[mission2toilet]

Originally Posted by extraholes

Funny, thats were i wanted the switches, but were told they don't fit there. My guess is that my aftermarket switches are very different than the ones you got.

Here is a pic

I seen this switch button from 2008 Camry before..

[headlikeahole]

heated seats make me feel like I shat myself.

[Demandred7]

How in the world does anyone need heated seats if the seats are cloth? I understand with leather, but, with cloth, ....really?! I dd my FR-S in -20 C weather and never said to myself, "I really could have used heated seats about now". On the other hand, leather without heat just feels like the old vinyl seats from the 70's.

[Mister]

Originally Posted by Demandred7

How in the world does anyone need heated seats if the seats are cloth? I understand with leather, but, with cloth, ....really?! I dd my FR-S in -20 C weather and never said to myself, "I really could have used heated seats about now". On the other hand, leather without heat just feels like the old vinyl seats from the 70's.

They are very useful for cloth I think. When you do not have a garage the car is freezing right when you get in for about 3 months of the year. The first 5-10 minutes are pretty damn cold until things get warmed up. I would rather enjoy having the extra heat. A good heated seat will feel good after a minute or 2. For short drives it is worth it.
Fun fact: The WRX offers heated cloth seats.

I have been doing a lot of research on the matter, and it seems you have 2 options, you can buy the seat cushions from the BRZ (there is a DIY for this on this forum), or you simply cannot heat the bottom of the passenger seat with after-market solutions. In fact, many after-market producers of heated seats recommend to NOT install in the portion of the passenger seat that has SRS sensors, you do not want to mess with that system. You could trick it, or just put the heating tech under the sensor, but you still risk damaging it with the heat, so you are better off leaving it alone.
Some cars come from the factory like this (Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna come to mind). Where they only heat half the passenger seat.

[Chaetagnath]

Originally Posted by Mister

I have been doing a lot of research on the matter, and it seems you have 2 options, you can buy the seat cushions from the BRZ (there is a DIY for this on this forum), or you simply cannot heat the bottom of the passenger seat with after-market solutions. In fact, many after-market producers of heated seats recommend to NOT install in the portion of the passenger seat that has SRS sensors, you do not want to mess with that system. You could trick it, or just put the heating tech under the sensor, but you still risk damaging it with the heat, so you are better off leaving it alone.
Some cars come from the factory like this (Honda Odyssey and Toyota Sienna come to mind). Where they only heat half the passenger seat.

What would the potential problems of having an aftermarket on the seat cushion itself be? Essentially, as far as I can tell, the passenger side airbag would always be on, whether someone is in the seat or not (the warning chime can be disabled). Would there be any danger to an adult who is actually sitting in the seat, as in the airbag might not go off due to the heater? Is it dangerous for the driver if the passenger airbag goes off in an accident? I can see where the airbag might be an issue for a child seat or small child or something perhaps. Also, do you know if the sensor itself is embedded in the seat cushion?

[CruiseZen]

Originally Posted by Linseal

Heated seats are not an option for the scion. Dealer must have done it's own install.

Heated seats are standard with the Monogram edition. Mine work great and there are no issues with the airbag sensors.

[Mister]

Originally Posted by Chaetagnath

What would the potential problems of having an aftermarket on the seat cushion itself be? Essentially, as far as I can tell, the passenger side airbag would always be on, whether someone is in the seat or not (the warning chime can be disabled). Would there be any danger to an adult who is actually sitting in the seat, as in the airbag might not go off due to the heater? Is it dangerous for the driver if the passenger airbag goes off in an accident? I can see where the airbag might be an issue for a child seat or small child or something perhaps. Also, do you know if the sensor itself is embedded in the seat cushion?

The biggest threat is that the heat could potentially damage the sensor. I am not sure if this danger is warranted or not, but I am a little reluctant to just wing it and end up unknowingly damaging the sensor. If the sensor were somehow damaged causing it to NOT detect a passenger would be my biggest concern. In the case where it was not damaged you are correct it would always be on, which would throw a light on the dash if the seatbelt is not done up. See a fix for that here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16293

More info on the sensor itself here:
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15425

The sensor is not embedded in the cushion, it is on top of it, and the wires run through to the base. I could not locate a picture, but I plan on taking apart my seats in the next couple of months so I'll be sure to document the process. It looks like a thin flat flexible piece of plastic with circuitry embedded in it, it looks to be quite flexible.

If it could be verified that the FRS/Monogram and the BRZ use the same exact sensor, I would be more comfortable with simply placing the heating pad UNDER the sensor and properly insulating it to prevent it from being detected. But as it is I am not sure if it is safe to have heat at about 105-120 degrees F directly on the sensor without risk of damage/melting. Further research is needed.

[kevman_101]

Originally Posted by nadamz

Same.. the -3c temps in Canberra at 8am requires heated seating.

That`s cute