Tada Tetsuya Announces Updated 86 Will Be Coming... Soon

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by djmm

Just so that everyone clear, I've asked my wife to translate the original message:
According to her, Tada has written that their goal for the new project is to evolve the 86, but at the same time they are also working so that owners of current model 86 can benefit from this evolution.

I wonder what that can be... so when the new stuff arrive we can bring our older model 86 to have the same upgrade?

IT sounds that way but Im sure it will be at a cost of course.

[m.box.design]

Originally Posted by djmm

Just so that everyone clear, I've asked my wife to translate the original message:
According to her, Tada has written that their goal for the new project is to evolve the 86, but at the same time they are also working so that owners of current model 86 can benefit from this evolution.

I wonder what that can be... so when the new stuff arrive we can bring our older model 86 to have the same upgrade?

probably interchangeable stuff. suspension tweaks, improved factory tune to address torque dip, new wheels and bumper? things along those lines. maybe some weight reduction. that's probably it.

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by indesign

probably interchangeable stuff. suspension tweaks, improved factory tune to address torque dip, new wheels and bumper? things along those lines. maybe some weight reduction. that's probably it.

OR if it is a power upgrade just make it available to current owners as well via trd ect...

[N_A]

More powerful crickets?

[raven1231]

Originally Posted by N_A

More powerful crickets?

fucking grasshoppers bro

[G.I.Choe]

Originally Posted by Mikem53

$25K worth or TRD parts? That's more than the car costs here.. That's insane..

Didn't think they made 25k worth of TRD parts...

It's not the parts themselves, it's import taxes. A lot of European countries heavily tax cars in general to discourage driving.


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[stock]

Originally Posted by Chad11491

If you can't decide between a sports car and an accord, it might not be for you. Just saying.

You are so right. Some people SIMPLY DO NOT GET IT (wtf). That's all there is to it.

[stock]

Originally Posted by djmm

Just so that everyone clear, I've asked my wife to translate the original message:
According to her, Tada has written that their goal for the new project is to evolve the 86, but at the same time they are also working so that owners of current model 86 can benefit from this evolution.

I wonder what that can be... so when the new stuff arrive we can bring our older model 86 to have the same upgrade?

Wouldn't it be awesome, if we could just download the new update or download some HP. Free download, 210hp. Ha.

[dokterdewe]

would like to have an undercarriage upgrade, remade shaft, retuned suspension, better brakes (brembos front and rear as in BRZ tS would be a very delighted upgrade )... a bit restyled bumpers... taillamp scheme change... and better response A/T... and maybe... modest power upgrade.. say a lost in torque lump... or an increase of 5-10% BHP

[torqdork]

Originally Posted by Rampage

For the last Toyota sports car, the MR-S, when they did their refresh they updated the front fascia, side vents, rear fascia inserts, tail lights, head lights, wheels sizes, added remote unlock, updated stereo, new seats, stronger axles and a little chassis bracing. Weight went up a bit. There were no increases in HP or performance. All the stuff could be bolted on the earlier models.

Let's see if history repeats itself as it so often does with Toyota.

They also raised the ride height 1" to meet pedestrian safety regs. That and the weight gain made the early years most desirable for serious enthusiasts. Could it happen here?

Interesting what's happening to North American pricing. The Monogram represents a substantial price cut factoring in content. Who knows is it's a trend, the upcoming TRD Special Edition pricing will tell.

My worries are about the future of the Scion brand altogether. There's been threads full of speculation that in the past I blew off as sensational until yesterday. Scion corporate district manager positions were eliminated as they rolled everything into the Toyota side where the Toyota district managers consider Scion a sideshow to their main objective, volume. Nobody was fired, they're doing other corporate jobs, but combined with TMS blessing dealers wishing to voluntarily terminate the Scion franchise gives pause about the future of the Scion brand.

We could be driving orphans or collectibles, I'm not sure which, but Tada-san's plans give hope that FR-S will continue for at least one 6-7 year product cycle with continuous upgrades.

[djmm]

Maybe some changes in LSD, tuning, etc... with a tad of facial update?

[imag]

Originally Posted by torqdork

We could be driving orphans or collectibles, I'm not sure which, but Tada-san's plans give hope that FR-S will continue for at least one 6-7 year product cycle with continuous upgrades.

They might ditch Scion (though I doubt it), but the people who were saying that they would discontinue the car don't understand the automotive industry.

They have already spent the majority of the money in development. The worst case for any car is that they leave it basically untouched, refusing to spend more. There is no way any car company would stop building the car after only three years, unless it was getting Murano convertible sales numbers. I think even that abysmal failure is still hanging around.

Since the car is basically a marketing exercise - and because Akio Toyoda is a sports car fan - it is no surprise that they will keep it fresh. It loses its value to Toyota if it looks bad. The only question is how much they will upgrade it and how long we will have to wait for a top-spec version, which usually comes in the middle/end of the run with Japanese sports cars.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by ncmx5

I would really like to see a cheaper stripped down model.. Remove the useless rear seats, lighter wheels and stickier tyres,offer adjustable suspension and aggressive alignment adjustments from the factory, make A/C an option, Recaro seats, Oil cooler, better brakes, lightweight high flow exhaust.They could also have some sort of gps datalogging program like they are doing with the C7 Z06. You would have car about 100lbs lighter and ready to track right out of the box.

What happened, your socket wrench broke?

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by torqdork

They also raised the ride height 1" to meet pedestrian safety regs. That and the weight gain made the early years most desirable for serious enthusiasts.

I disagree, simple fix when pretty much everyone wants to drop springs/coilovers on them. The latter MR-S had the added chassis bracing stock and reinforced front upper mounts that were known to fatigue or fail prematurely under heavy track conditions. Plus the looks were just better all around imho, but that's subjective. Plus they added an LSD as an option and the cat of death was fixed.
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Hope they improve or replace the Subaru wheel bearings too. Utter garbage.