Honestly why do people get a SC - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

wheelhaus · 02-27-2014, 02:13 AM

First you need to understand that people want different things.

Secondly, a SC has no "lag" or odd transient response or boost thresholds, they produce instant linear power from idle that simply feels like a bigger engine.

A turbo might have vastly more headroom, but not everyone wants 500+hp. I personally will be PERFECTLY happy with 250-275whp. Hell, I'm pretty happy at stock power because I enjoy driving the car, not doing freeway pulls. That being said, I do want a bump in power with track day reliability that will last me for many years.

I've considered turbo, and have owned (and tracked) many turbo cars in the past, (WRX, two STI's and an Evo) but I love, love, LOVE the responsiveness of the NA engine in this chassis. I'd like to preserve that.

Raven604 · 02-27-2014, 02:26 AM

I'm more concerned about the cost per HP then headroom. Just saying for the price of a supercharger and header is the same or more then a turbo kit with equal or less power, from what I've read around here you can get a Tiny turbo with instant boost thanks to the high compression with more headroom on stock exhaust.

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wrxgoose · 02-27-2014, 03:18 AM

i've had turbo cars in the past, and while i did enjoy them, i wanted instant power, and i wanted to know that if i ever decided to go try and drift (in a controlled enviroment) that i wouldn't have to worry about suddenly hitting boost and having the tail end go out on me.

besides, everyone around here has turbo, and it's played out. i wanted something different, something i could install myself in a day and was very easy to install. innovate took less than 4 hours from start to finish to install, and i was driving her that same afternoon.

Raven604 · 02-27-2014, 03:23 AM

Little to no pro drifters use Superchargers...

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wrxgoose · 02-27-2014, 03:26 AM

notice i said "try" i have no idea what i'm doing with drifting. and i really do enjoy having ~200 lb/ft of torque anywhere in my RPM range.

Shiv@Openflash · 02-27-2014, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven604

Little to no pro drifters use Superchargers...

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Little to no one on this forum are pro drifters

1086 · 02-27-2014, 03:28 AM

Do you want to get sucked back into your seat at ~3,500 RPM or do you want to get sucked back into your seat at ~1 RPM? BRO?

FreshFRS · 02-27-2014, 03:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven604

Little to no pro drifters use Superchargers...

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thats the truth.

they run 9000rpm v-8s

or turbos, having a good power band with a Turbo car say 4-8krpm or 5-9krpm (Supra at ~600whp for example) with boost threshold lower than that 4k rpm means they are going to be in boost nearly the whole run. and won't get the big rush of torque except of takeoff. transient response might take a few milliseconds depending, but thats up to the driver to get a feel for and control.

I will be getting a supercharger eventually, i like a nice linear power band thats going to keep this car's transient response time to a minimum. just a preference, and coming from a TC S2000, This car doesn't need world beating power just enough for the chassis to really shine, 300whp is lots for my goals and to be able to surprise quite a few solid cars.

SmsAlSuwaidi · 02-27-2014, 03:35 AM

Supercharger...LOL

Raven604 · 02-27-2014, 03:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1086

Do you want to get sucked back into your seat at ~3,500 RPM or do you want to get sucked back into your seat at ~1 RPM? BRO?

Alright that made my night ty

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utekineir · 02-27-2014, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1086

Do you want to get sucked back into your seat at ~3,500 RPM or do you want to get sucked back into your seat at ~1 RPM? BRO?

Sucked in my seat at idle please

ZionsWrath · 02-27-2014, 08:11 AM

OP help me understand why I can't decide between an AVO turbo and JR supercharger

please halp me

DJCarbine · 02-27-2014, 08:38 AM

I would argue if your goal was the most power simply buying an frs/brz is a flawed first step.
There are much better cars on paper than an frs/brz... yet here we are

NickFRS · 02-27-2014, 08:54 AM

I went innovate supercharger because I love the instant power. Peddle to floor anywhere = Boost. The low end torque is also amazing.

02-27-2014, 03:18 AM	#17
wrxgoose WUB WUB Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Charlotte Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 313 Thanked 1,573 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 52 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	i've had turbo cars in the past, and while i did enjoy them, i wanted instant power, and i wanted to know that if i ever decided to go try and drift (in a controlled enviroment) that i wouldn't have to worry about suddenly hitting boost and having the tail end go out on me. besides, everyone around here has turbo, and it's played out. i wanted something different, something i could install myself in a day and was very easy to install. innovate took less than 4 hours from start to finish to install, and i was driving her that same afternoon. __________________ Build thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40850 no more blower power

02-27-2014, 03:26 AM	#19
wrxgoose WUB WUB Join Date: Aug 2012 Drives: 2013 Firestorm Location: Charlotte Posts: 2,788 Thanks: 313 Thanked 1,573 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 52 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	notice i said "try" i have no idea what i'm doing with drifting. and i really do enjoy having ~200 lb/ft of torque anywhere in my RPM range. __________________ Build thread: http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40850 no more blower power

02-27-2014, 08:38 AM	#27
DJCarbine Thupercharged Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S Location: La Grange Park, IL. Posts: 1,501 Thanks: 116 Thanked 751 Times in 439 Posts Mentioned: 23 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I would argue if your goal was the most power simply buying an frs/brz is a flawed first step. There are much better cars on paper than an frs/brz... yet here we are __________________ 2013 FRS Vortech V3 11psi Revworks UEL - PLM Overpipe - MOTIV catted frontpipe - Invidia Q300 2019 Series.Grey STI - Stage1+ SF

02-27-2014, 08:54 AM	#28
NickFRS Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 2013 Asphalt FRS Location: Gladstone Posts: 1,450 Thanks: 899 Thanked 440 Times in 286 Posts Mentioned: 75 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I went innovate supercharger because I love the instant power. Peddle to floor anywhere = Boost. The low end torque is also amazing. __________________ 2013 Sion FRS 2014 Subaru WRX 2014 Subaru XV

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wheelhaus Join Date: Jul 2012 Drives: 2013 BRZ, 2020 KTM Super Duke 1290R Location: Denver Posts: 1,788 Thanks: 714 Thanked 1,141 Times in 624 Posts Mentioned: 49 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	First you need to understand that people want different things. Secondly, a SC has no "lag" or odd transient response or boost thresholds, they produce instant linear power from idle that simply feels like a bigger engine. A turbo might have vastly more headroom, but not everyone wants 500+hp. I personally will be PERFECTLY happy with 250-275whp. Hell, I'm pretty happy at stock power because I enjoy driving the car, not doing freeway pulls. That being said, I do want a bump in power with track day reliability that will last me for many years. I've considered turbo, and have owned (and tracked) many turbo cars in the past, (WRX, two STI's and an Evo) but I love, love, LOVE the responsiveness of the NA engine in this chassis. I'd like to preserve that.

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Raven604 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Vancouver Posts: 328 Thanks: 93 Thanked 113 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I'm more concerned about the cost per HP then headroom. Just saying for the price of a supercharger and header is the same or more then a turbo kit with equal or less power, from what I've read around here you can get a Tiny turbo with instant boost thanks to the high compression with more headroom on stock exhaust. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

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