Honestly why do people get a SC - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Raven604 · 02-27-2014, 01:37 AM

I don't understand. The only reason I could think of would be that they don't want an aftermarket exhaust. Every turbo kit is a better option. If you factor in the cost of a header to a SC kit, it's equal or more expensive then turbo kit options with less power. SC kit with no header and exhaust might yield the same power as small turbo kit such as the AVO, but once you start adding a header and exhaust, the gains scale wayyyyyy less with the SC kit then with a turbo.

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nataku · 02-27-2014, 01:39 AM

Troll? Endless threads on the benefits of both routes...

Raven604 · 02-27-2014, 01:42 AM

Not a troll. Serious inquiry. The numbers don't add up. And I'm just trying to stir up the boards tonight.

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husker741 · 02-27-2014, 01:42 AM

Why did you get this car? You wanted it. There's your answer to why people get SC kits. Spend your money the way you want.

whataboutbob · 02-27-2014, 01:43 AM

Because linear power delivery and low end torque in the case of the Innovate kit. If you want to drag race and brag about big numbers, have fun with a turbo. Hope your motor lasts.

Acree · 02-27-2014, 01:44 AM

Ignorant thread is ignorant. Go do due diligence and then come back with some insightful posts. This is just... a waste.

juliog · 02-27-2014, 01:44 AM

^ and also, because some kits are CARB legal in California...

nataku · 02-27-2014, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raven604

Not a troll. Serious inquiry. The numbers don't add up. And I'm just trying to stir up the boards tonight.

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In that case I agree with you aside from the inflammatory nature and intent of your original post.

I have observed some very nice results from a friend's Vortech kit; however, while he got better peak power I have the benefit of lower boost, better MPG, earlier and higher torque, and the BOV noise is more fun in my car.

I can't speak to intercooled twin-screw setups yet as I haven't see how that pans out. Those tend to have a much better torque curve than the turbine SC.

Raven604 · 02-27-2014, 01:48 AM

OK maybe you guys are right. Carb legal is a good argument. Touche. But for me, it doesn't make sense.

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Shiv@Openflash · 02-27-2014, 01:55 AM

Why do people drag race when road racing is so much more fun? Why does Porsche opt for an NA engine in their GT3? Why are the best driver's cars equipped with high revving/low torque engines? So many question

Raven604 · 02-27-2014, 02:01 AM

Why are there so many strokes for so many different folks..

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86-tundra · 02-27-2014, 02:02 AM

numbers don't tell the whole story.

enivid · 02-27-2014, 02:03 AM

The car with the biggest numbers on paper is never the "best" car.

stugray · 02-27-2014, 02:03 AM

For my Solara, you could get a TRD SC installed by the dealer and it did not void your warranty...

02-27-2014, 01:37 AM	#1
Raven604 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Vancouver Posts: 328 Thanks: 93 Thanked 113 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Honestly why do people get a SC I don't understand. The only reason I could think of would be that they don't want an aftermarket exhaust. Every turbo kit is a better option. If you factor in the cost of a header to a SC kit, it's equal or more expensive then turbo kit options with less power. SC kit with no header and exhaust might yield the same power as small turbo kit such as the AVO, but once you start adding a header and exhaust, the gains scale wayyyyyy less with the SC kit then with a turbo. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

02-27-2014, 01:39 AM	#2
nataku Negative Mass Join Date: May 2012 Drives: Orange Metallic AVO Turbo GT86 6MT Location: Arlington VA Posts: 702 Thanks: 272 Thanked 346 Times in 201 Posts Mentioned: 56 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	Troll? Endless threads on the benefits of both routes... __________________ Build thread for my Lovely Lady.

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Acree Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: 13 CSB BRZ Ltd Location: United States Posts: 1,035 Thanks: 147 Thanked 530 Times in 286 Posts Mentioned: 39 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Ignorant thread is ignorant. Go do due diligence and then come back with some insightful posts. This is just... a waste. __________________ 2011 BMW M3 (No torque dip) 2013 Subaru BRZ - SOLD - Build Thread

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Raven604 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Vancouver Posts: 328 Thanks: 93 Thanked 113 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Not a troll. Serious inquiry. The numbers don't add up. And I'm just trying to stir up the boards tonight. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

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Raven604 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Vancouver Posts: 328 Thanks: 93 Thanked 113 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	OK maybe you guys are right. Carb legal is a good argument. Touche. But for me, it doesn't make sense. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

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Raven604 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S Location: Vancouver Posts: 328 Thanks: 93 Thanked 113 Times in 65 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Why are there so many strokes for so many different folks.. Sent from my SGH-I337M using Tapatalk

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