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Old 03-14-2012, 01:05 PM   #85
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More info from The Truth about Cars -

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...ed-subaru-brz/

Spokespeople at Subaru were very busy today, preparing for an event on Friday. Finally, Subaru spokesman Masato Saito was dragged out of a meeting and said that these rumors are not “based on official information by FHI (Fuji Heavy Industries).” He did not want to comment further.

Toyota always maintained that it will sell as many hachi-roku as possible, with CEO Akio Toyoda personally leading the charge. A quick chat confirms that Toyota has not changed this stance.
Not surprisingly, Toyota’s spokesman Naoto Fuse says that “as for the Toyota 86, we plan to sell between 30,000 and 40,000 units annually overseas, mostly in North America and Europe.”
Why were Subaru spokespeople so busy? On Friday, there will be a line-off party at the Subaru plant. Subaru BRZ, Toyota 86, GT 86, Scion FR-S will be rolling off the line as quickly as they can build them, and as many as importers order will be shipped. Expect the first ones to arrive at U.S. shores in approximately a month from now. After a few weeks of thin supplies, common to any new model launch, you should be able to choose from plenty cars. Don’t buy the shortage story and pay above MSRP.


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Old 03-14-2012, 02:34 PM   #86
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Huh? Yes you did.
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"I mentioned that reviews had these cars priced around the same point"

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That means you don't understand why the BRZ is priced higher, which obviously means you believe that will be the same price?
I do understand why, but SOME people have a perception that it will be a big significant increase, whereas I'm sure it will be a 1-2k MSRP increase.
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Old 03-14-2012, 02:38 PM   #87
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I do understand why, but SOME people have a perception that it will be a big significant increase, whereas I'm sure it will be a 1-2k MSRP increase.
I quoted you directly. If you contradicted yourself that doesn't magically erase other statements you made. My quote of you was a direct quote and it's exactly what you typed which was, to paraphrase "I don't understand why people think the FR-S will cost less than the BRZ". That implies, and this isn't terribly complicated, that you understand that they will cost the same.

So you are saying two different things, so pick one and run with it, but don't pretend or ignore that you directly said the other. 1-2k has been the common ground for the BRZ Premiums price increase from the FR-S so I'm not even sure who you are argueing with.
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I do understand why, but SOME people have a perception that it will be a big significant increase, whereas I'm sure it will be a 1-2k MSRP increase.


I don't see it as being a large increase in pricing. Depends if the Scion comes with the Be-Spoke (or whatever it is called) or not. But I think the Scion could start off around $24k and the BRZ premium $25. If the difference is much higher ($3-4k most people would just skip the BRZ premium and go with the FRS or the BRZ limited). HIDs and NAV aren't worth more than $1-1.5k for many of us.
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Subaru spokesman Masato Saito was dragged out of a meeting and said that these rumors are not “based on official information by FHI (Fuji Heavy Industries).” He did not want to comment further.

...Toyota always maintained that it will sell as many hachi-roku as possible,
The Subaru statement is a non-denial denial, and the Toyota information is about Toyota, not Subaru.
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I quoted you directly. If you contradicted yourself that doesn't magically erase other statements you made. My quote of you was a direct quote and it's exactly what you typed which was, to paraphrase "I don't understand why people think the FR-S will cost less than the BRZ". That implies, and this isn't terribly complicated, that you understand that they will cost the same.

So you are saying two different things, so pick one and run with it, but don't pretend or ignore that you directly said the other. 1-2k has been the common ground for the BRZ Premiums price increase from the FR-S so I'm not even sure who you are argueing with.
I wasnt contradicting myself. So let me be a bit more clear on what i meant...

What i dont understand is why people believe it will have a significant increase in PRICE that it will determine which car to choose. From my perception and what I've been reading is that people are waiting (expecting) for 2 prices that will make people steer one way or the other. I never meant that both cars are offering the same EXACT things along with the car but meant that these cars are the same underneath with minimal changes.
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"ENGINEERED IN LIMITED QUANTITIES" subaru marketing slogan. YEA FUCKING RIGHT. FUCK YOU. that shit turns me off
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