FR-S vs Civic SI

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by Chen

I'm saying everyone has their opinion. Because you think it's ugly doesn't mean the world thinks it's ugly.

Oh jeez, get real.

Some cars are just ugly. Google 4G TL. That's ugly.

[Chen]

Originally Posted by JS + MS3

Oh jeez, get real.

Some cars are just ugly. Google 4G TL. That's ugly.

get off your high horse. Your opinion is no better than anybody elses.

look at the Nissan leaf or Pruis... Heck even the Porsche paneramma.

[Demandred7]

It's not the exterior of the Civic that I have a problem with, it is that weird two tiered dash that turns me off. That and RWD = fun. The only things that I have to say for the Civic is that it has a larger interior and trunk and VTEC sounds way better than the FA20. Although I am comparing the FA20 to the K20A3 from the DC5 (aka Acura RSX), I'm not sure about the newest Civic.

[suaveflooder]

Originally Posted by Chen

Every car has it's angles. Heck I personally think from straight on. The frs is butt ugly. But from a partial side view, the car is money.

I actually agree with you here! I actually thought the 86 was pretty ugly when I first saw it. I bought mine because of the handling and the "look potential" that it had. If I had to leave the car looking stock, I would not have bought it. Thankfully, it just needed a little love to make it look

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by Chen

get off your high horse. Your opinion is no better than anybody elses.

look at the Nissan leaf or Pruis... Heck even the Porsche paneramma.

What's up with Leaf/Prius/Panamera? Are you saying they are ugly? Are they generally considered as ugly cars by the car enthusiasts and media?

Because Civic Si has been bashed by so many enthusiasts and media. It's not just because I think it's ugly. Yes, it's a subjective matter. But some cars have reputation for being ugly.

[Chen]

Originally Posted by JS + MS3

What's up with Leaf/Prius/Panamera? Are you saying they are ugly? Are they generally considered as ugly cars by the car enthusiasts and media?

Because Civic Si has been bashed by so many enthusiasts and media. It's not just because I think it's ugly. Yes, it's a subjective matter. But some cars have reputation for being ugly.

I agree. But that isn't the point I'm trying to make. I'm saying not everybody thinks its ugly. And the Car being "ugly"isn't a standard.

[fistpoint]

The Civic's today are simply nothing like they used to be. Now they are within 95% the size/weight of a Honda Accord from 15-20 years ago. Honda needs to change the name of the Fit, redesigned it, and begin doing to it what they did to Civic's in the mid '80's through the 2000 model year(pumping up the HP, making Si models).

I've owned a '92, '93 and a '00 Si. Until Honda returns to making Civic's like they used to I do not foresee myself ever owning one again. The ones I had were spectacular though in reliability and fun factor(both of which are diminishing over the years).

[Acoupe]

Originally Posted by JS + BRZ

What's up with Leaf/Prius/Panamera? Are you saying they are ugly? Are they generally considered as ugly cars by the car enthusiasts and media?

Because Civic Si has been bashed by so many enthusiasts and media. It's not just because I think it's ugly. Yes, it's a subjective matter. But some cars have reputation for being ugly.

I love his attitude lol. He thinks he is better than everyone with an Si, because he thinks his car is "better". Just a reality check here, people with a 911s, M3, AMG, and just plain better cars are laughing at you. You have a 25k car. Don't think you're better than people. Motortend has picked the mx5 as a better than the FRS. Everyday Driver picked the S2000 as a better car than the FRS/BRZ. Every car is unique and special. There are benefits and cons with everything.

[JS + BRZ]

Originally Posted by Acoupe

I love his attitude lol. He thinks he is better than everyone with an Si, because he thinks his car is "better". Just a reality check here, people with a 911s, M3, AMG, and just plain better cars are laughing at you. You have a 25k car. Don't think you're better than people. Motortend has picked the mx5 as a better than the FRS. Everyday Driver picked the S2000 as a better car than the FRS/BRZ. Every car is unique and special. There are benefits and cons with everything.

If you are going to insult me, at least try to make sense.

Your post makes zero sense. Please try again.

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[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by Acoupe

I love his attitude lol. He thinks he is better than everyone with an Si, because he thinks his car is "better". Just a reality check here, people with a 911s, M3, AMG, and just plain better cars are laughing at you. You have a 25k car. Don't think you're better than people. Motortend has picked the mx5 as a better than the FRS. Everyday Driver picked the S2000 as a better car than the FRS/BRZ. Every car is unique and special. There are benefits and cons with everything.

Please... around here we laugh at 911s, Cayman Rs, AMG C63s, and the like based on our superior, largely subjective magazine reviews:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/mo...ers-car-winner
http://blog.toyota.co.uk/toyota-gt86...ear-speed-week

Don't forget the Caymans:

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6688
http://www.germancarforum.com/commun...ta-gt86.49062/

Also Aventadors and Jags:

http://www.motortrend.com/features/p...r/viewall.html

And of course the lowly Miata:

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...or_comparison/

Clearly our cars are just "plain better".

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by Acoupe

I love his attitude lol. He thinks he is better than everyone with an Si, because he thinks his car is "better". Just a reality check here, people with a 911s, M3, AMG, and just plain better cars are laughing at you. You have a 25k car. Don't think you're better than people. Motortend has picked the mx5 as a better than the FRS. Everyday Driver picked the S2000 as a better car than the FRS/BRZ. Every car is unique and special. There are benefits and cons with everything.

You registered just to add this? Go back under your rock.

[suaveflooder]

Wait...what the hell is going on with these last couple posts? Are we BMW drivers now? I seriously thought I had clicked on the M3forum icon instead of the ft86 one on tapatalk :/. What is it with the elitist attitude?

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

Wait...what the hell is going on with these last couple posts? Are we BMW drivers now? I seriously thought I had clicked on the M3forum icon instead of the ft86 one on tapatalk :/. What is it with the elitist attitude?

[jbsali]

i'm trading in my 2011 Civic Si Coupe for a FRS/ BRZ in the next couple of days. Ive owned the Si for about 3 years. Prior to that i owned a 2008 Civic LX for 3 years also. The Si is a great car. The big reason i'm switching is that i've always wanted a true sports car. The car has great fuel economy, excellent resale value, looks good, handles well and is ok to DD. Even in the winter! Slap some All Seasons or Winters on and you shouldn't have a problem.
The best things about the Si are reliability, practicality and space.

There's nothing wrong with the Si i have and i've completely enjoyed the experience. I've wanted an FRS/BRZ since they were rumoured and i've decided to pull the trigger. These are a few of the reasons why i'm moving into one of the twins and trading in my Si

My car-use background:
I only put about 40-50,000km on my vehicles before i end up trading them in. I've only used the Si a couple of times to transport large items over the last 3 years. I have access to an SUV so i use that for moving things around. i also VERY RARELY use the rear seats for passengers. Maybe once every month or two.

Reasons to change (personal):
I justified the decision to get and FRS/BRZ because 1:I'm young, 2: i don't have maybe people to drive around. 3: i wanted a true sports car, 4: i'm getting engaged in the next 6 months. Thought i'd get one now before my future wife has anything to say about it


i would highly recommend checking out 8thcivic.com. A majority of the members are extremely friendly there and would probably give you a lot of insight as to why they have chosen the Si over the FRS/BRZ.

Regardless of the decision you make, you can't go wrong with either!

Best of luck to you!