KIA Stinger going after the twins?

[Dorb]

Anyone been reading up on the concept KIA Stinger?
I welcome all challengers to our twins. Wonder if more folks will jump into this market.

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/13/k...-detroit-2014/

[dontpanic]

looks like it.

the segment is still evolving. for a while miata and to a lesser degree S200 pretty much owned the affordable, small, light, RWD segment. the 86's were initially targeted there but one hears about cross-shopping mustangs etc more so than the MX5 these days.

[raven1231]

That's crazy I had no idea Kia was doing that. I wonder if Nissan will do the same/

[DarkSunrise]

To answer the question in the title, yes. The team working on the Stinger concept said they were targeting the Twins. Competition is good IMO. Subaru/Toyota have definitely re-ignited the small, affordable RWD sports car segment.

[maximumunicorn]

Originally Posted by raven1231

That's crazy I had no idea Kia was doing that. I wonder if Nissan will do the same/

Check out the Nissan iDX concept. It's their theoretical answer to the twins. The picture below was from NAIAS this year:

[n2oinferno]

Discussion about it going on in the Other Cars section
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53854

[Akari]

Yes, bring all the competition! I welcome more similarly set up cars for fun track time and better innovation.

[Dorb]

Originally Posted by n2oinferno

Discussion about it going on in the Other Cars section
http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53854

Sorry, I have a BRZ and pretty much only go to the BRZ section. Never really check the other crap out. And its been moved. But now I know. Thank you.

[BlueDubbinTDI]

Originally Posted by raven1231

That's crazy I had no idea Kia was doing that. I wonder if Nissan will do the same/

Not sure if serious or troll...

[supragoods]

So with more hp and weight comparible to the twinz. Sound like if it hit the assembly line. Only stafety rating and price dictates its success.

[Nolan.alex831]

Honestly I don't think either poses serious competition to the twins...the Kia loses all aspects of creditable RWD sports car because... it's a Kia. The nissan has more of a chance, but is easily multiple years away. I doubt the production model iDX will look anything like the concept, similar to most concepts it's way to futuristic looking. In my personal opinion it's ugly, the body lines are too contrasting to one another, it just doesn't look pleasant. The ultimate failure of the iDX though will be price... It's a nissan so anything less than 30k base price would be surprising. Which in its own is kind of humorous given that this is nissan'so answer to the twins which their president says is a "midlife crisis car" at 25k base, but the 370z is not at 47+k (I'm not 100% on the base price and too lazy to look it up) because most young 18-26 year olds make the kind of money to pay that much for a car.... Long story short Kia is nothing because "Kia sports car" is nothing more than a joke and nissan just needs to bring back the S chasis, the rb motors, and stick with the gt-r's. LONG LIVE THE TWINS!


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[YMAA]

Originally Posted by Nolan.alex831

Honestly I don't think either poses serious competition to the twins...the Kia loses all aspects of creditable RWD sports car because... it's a Kia.

Originally Posted by Nolan.alex831

Long story short Kia is nothing because "Kia sports car" is nothing more than a joke and nissan just needs to bring back the S chasis, the rb motors, and stick with the gt-r's. LONG LIVE THE TWINS!

Or, instead of claiming based on brand name alone that Kia can't make a competitive car, wait until it's out and make your decision based on actual evidence and observation. They're a large company and they definitely have the resources.

They just haven't yet.

[Nolan.alex831]

Originally Posted by YMAA

Or, instead of claiming based on brand name alone that Kia can't make a competitive car, wait until it's out and make your decision based on actual evidence and observation. They're a large company and they definitely have the resources.

They just haven't yet.

I'll admit that was rather close minded on my part and I'm not completely writing the car off, I will eat my own words and be the first one to admit I was wrong. You're right in the fact that they're a large company with the resource to make a legitimate sports car, but it's not like they all of a sudden have the resources out of nowhere, and they haven't produced in the past so I was solely basing that on Kia's prior cars. But on the other hand everything has to start somewhere so maybe. Just maybe Kia will pull out to prove me wrong. Maybe. I just doubt even if it is successful it'll be big enough to be even remotely competitive to the twins. See as they are pulling from two car enthusiast groups that already exist in toyota and subaru guys.


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[fatoni]

Originally Posted by Nolan.alex831

I'll admit that was rather close minded on my part and I'm not completely writing the car off, I will eat my own words and be the first one to admit I was wrong. You're right in the fact that they're a large company with the resource to make a legitimate sports car, but it's not like they all of a sudden have the resources out of nowhere, and they haven't produced in the past so I was solely basing that on Kia's prior cars. But on the other hand everything has to start somewhere so maybe. Just maybe Kia will pull out to prove me wrong. Maybe. I just doubt even if it is successful it'll be big enough to be even remotely competitive to the twins. See as they are pulling from two car enthusiast groups that already exist in toyota and subaru guys.


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Until the twins, neither company had a quintessential sports car in their line up. Before this, the Internet was full of garbage about how Toyota lost its way but here we are