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Old 02-05-2014, 03:38 PM   #155
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Yea going for check up is probably the smart thing to do before you start to follow a workout/diet regime. But lets be serious for a minute, how many people do this? Most of the people just seekout stuff on the internet and show up at the gym.

That is very true and that's what I am on here to push people toward getting a quick clearance before doing so.


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My comment wasn't addressed to people in the professional circuit. I'm talking about the average joe (on the internet) like me who just wants too look good aka get muscular.
The average Joe needs just as much of a clearance as athletes do. And athletes from elementary to professional realm all get pre-season physicals. The medical profession is using this as a preventative measure. You'd be surprised the people that have health conditions that are seen during a physical exam before they start playing. That ends up saving their life. So, the average Joe needs this just as much.[/quote]


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Yes, it's vague but it does work for a lot of people. Usually when somebody isn't getting the progress they want it's probably because they lack something from the above vague statement.
I partially agree with that.

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Do not take any of my statements seriously. I will not be held responsible for injury, death, damage, loss, delay, cost, expense, or inconvenience arising from workout misfortunes beyond my control.
Love the disclaimer!
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:41 PM   #156
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Ok this thread is just turn in to a big pile of crap with all the butt hurt going on in here. Physical therapist, personal trainer, PT this, PT that, PT Cruiser... who cares.

The mods should close it and have everyone use the original thread and keep it clean of all this BS and just post advice

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...workout&page=3
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Ok this thread is just turn in to a big pile of crap with all the butt hurt going on in here. Physical therapist, personal trainer, PT this, PT that, PT Cruiser... who cares.

The mods should close it and have everyone use the original thread and keep it clean of all this BS and just post advice

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...workout&page=3
I am so butt hurt! Ouch. Why anyone would listen to someone who does not know anything about health/wellness is beyond me? This is a forum about cars. Not the human body. So, I will step in anywhere where I see the abbreviation 'PT' referring to a personal trainer. I am protecting the public and my profession. Now that you know that. I will gladly step away and let you all discuss what you know or lack thereof about exercise and nutrition. I am sure you all will be butt hurt to see me go .

Am I really am happy to help anyone that wants some advice. Cheers.
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Old 02-05-2014, 03:51 PM   #158
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well i was paraphrasing for my MD, but i did stop seeing him when i realized he tried to push a pill for issues i didn't have symptoms for. I do appreciate the honest responce.

and i should probably add a disclaimer like zenki posted in my forum signatures lol.
I think that was smart to do. I simply care about people and that's why I am a physical therapist. Further that is why I took the time to respond on this thread. Because I don't want anyone to be misled. Just want you all to be safe in the gym as well as in your cars. That is sincere.
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Ok this thread is just turn in to a big pile of crap with all the butt hurt going on in here. Physical therapist, personal trainer, PT this, PT that, PT Cruiser... who cares.

The mods should close it and have everyone use the original thread and keep it clean of all this BS and just post advice

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showt...workout&page=3
PT CRUISER I like PT cruisers ask me anything !
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PT CRUISER I like PT cruisers ask me anything !
You mean Personal Transportation Cruiser! Wouldn't want to confuse or offend anyone! (yeah had to look that one up lol)

I also have an SRT-4 so I know a good deal about them too, well the turbo ones at least. Definitely a great sleeper.

Ok I'm done being a hypocrite and further trashing this thread.
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I would be very careful throwing the abbreviation "PT" around. I have a doctorate in physical therapy. So hearing a personal trainer being called a "PT" is an insult. You only need a high school degree to become a personal trainer. They are not healthcare professionals. So let's get that straight.
In all honesty this seems like a good deal of butthurt to me since all the guy was doing was abbreviating Personal Trainer. I don't think he was trying to insult you or any other Physical Therapists in anyway. Both professions just happen to have the same abbreviations.

I don't mean any disrespect to you or your profession. I'm sure you know your shit and worked hard to get where you are, but I'm sure that there are personal trainers out there too that take their profession very seriously and are good at it too.
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In all honesty this seems like a good deal of butthurt to me since all the guy was doing was abbreviating Personal Trainer. I don't think he was trying to insult you or any other Physical Therapists in anyway. Both professions just happen to have the same abbreviations.

I don't mean any disrespect to you or your profession. I'm sure you know your shit and worked hard to get where you are, but I'm sure that there are personal trainers out there too that take their profession very seriously and are good at it too.
Yeah, I think I need some preparation H. I agree in regard to the abbreviations. I simply am an advocate of the profession and wanted to get clarity for people that think they are one in the same. Yes, it bothers me when they are mixed up and people think they are the same. That is my ultimate point. It takes 7 years with licensing exams to become a physical therapist. And one can walk into a facility and apply for a personal training job with only a high school diploma. And call themselves a personal trainer. I have friends that are personal trainers that just don't have the knowledge to keep people safe during their workouts. That's why personal training is pushing toward a bachelor degree with an entry level exam to be a requirement for entry into the field. That will help them a ton!

I love how you cool kids use butt hurt to described hurt feelings. There is a difference between being insulted and pointing out mistakes that were not intentional. I just hear this way too much and my goal in this field is to provide understanding about the difference. By educating the public. Carry on fellas.
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I'm a 'little' overweight.
5'9 190 pounds.
Should I lift heavy to turn my fat into muscle or focus on cardio first and drop a few pounds? I'm trying to get ripped, not to bulky.
You cannot convert fat to muscle. That is a big LOL. you burn fat and either strengthen or build new muscle. There is no such thing as ripped either but I know what you mean. For your goals do a lot of cardio mixed with some weights. Do not lift heavy but do not lift too light either. Do a weight you can do 10 to 12 times.
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Not sure if trolling. He weighs 201 and benches 225 which is roughly 112% of his weight 3 times. Hmm.
That is not at all hard to do. Put yourself in a gym with me and I will get you doing better than that in 1.5 years easy.
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That's a great question and one that I get quite often from my patients. I can tell you that they are all great methods of exercise. I believe in each one and so do most of my colleagues. I have not personally performed each program per video instruction wholeheartedly.

P90x theory and principles are great because our bodies are great at adaptation/maintaining equilibrium. So muscle confusion is very important. Basically, don't get stuck doing the same exercises week to week. Same goes with your nutrition. Always change the ways you eat and what you eat. Your body and metabolism adjust quite quickly.

Crossfit and Insanity are along the same lines in terms of methods for improving fitness similar to P90x.

It's all about periodization. Moreover making sure you are always challenging your body through many different methods of training/physical stress (i.e. exercise). Those programs were made based on the basics of strength and conditioning. Interval training, aerobic training, and various forms of resistance training are all the pillars of improving fitness.

I can not recommend anyone of them particularly for any one person. I can only say that the principle behind each program is geared toward challenging your body more so than you would do on your own. Thus the instructor is your motivator.

I have had a few patients come in with back injuries from these programs. So just be careful.

Hope that answers your question.
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Crossfit and Insanity are along the same lines in terms of methods for improving fitness similar to P90x.
Can you please expand on how Crossfit is similar to p90x or Insanity. Other than maybe the cardio/conditioning aspect, I am not seeing it.
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Can you please expand on how Crossfit is similar to p90x or Insanity. Other than maybe the cardio/conditioning aspect, I am not seeing it.
Sure. Crossfit utilizes the mix of aerobic exercise, gymnastics (body weight exercises), and Olympic weight lifting. They are similar in the sense of using various methods of physical activity to find new ways to stress and confuse your muscles for further development. Ultimately to prevent adaptation of the body to the movements and methods applied to it. Did that help?
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Sure. Crossfit utilizes the mix of aerobic exercise, gymnastics (body weight exercises), and Olympic weight lifting. They are similar in the sense of using various methods of physical activity to find new ways to stress and confuse your muscles for further development. Ultimately to prevent adaptation of the body to the movements and methods applied to it. Did that help?
That is a bit of a stretch imo. The addition of barbell movements, oly lifting, among other things makes crossfit much different than the other 2.

Like I said, they both do have an aerobic component, but that is about the only parallel I draw. Crossfit has an actual strength component, which the other two lack.

Let me ask you this. Do you train/lift yourself? If so what sort of programming do you follow, or what purpose are you training for?
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