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Old 02-03-2014, 11:46 PM   #29
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While it's not an "ideal" snow vehicle, I think it does just fine around populated areas that get plowed.

As long as it's not too deep (or moderately deep frozen slush) it's a fantastic winter car. Makes snow driving much more exciting because the feedback and predictability are top notch. Proper snow tires make all the difference.

Hard packed snow is AWESOME!!!
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If Suberyouknowwhoman had continued on his rant regarding the twins the result might have been people reading his drivel while Googling the twins winter drivability. He would be a car un-salesman.
I think most people with common sense understand there is some compromise in driving this type of car year round but definitely worth it none the less. And, if you do have a winter beater more power to you.
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I agree. My first RWD in snow and I feel pretty confident with it. I came from a suv with winter tires. Not as confident as I am with the suv but pretty darn close.

My only complaints for this car in the winter are:

1. Windows easily fog up/ice up
2. I usually get stuck after parking my car during a snow fall(as expected)
3. Leg warmers are none existent. I don't feel any hot air going to my legs even at full blast. Does anyone feel this way too or am I doing something wrong??

Other than that, the car has been perfect. I drove through yesterdays "snow storm" about 5-8cms of snow and no issues. Had a lot of fun sliding around corners with full control.


I like how you mentioned number 2. Do you think that it will affect all of our cars, because I am going away for college and I am bringing my car. The only thing that scares me is during winter my car might get snowed in even with snow tires and extra weight in the trunk. That is why I am considering trading it in for an awd.
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Old 02-04-2014, 02:56 AM   #32
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I like how you mentioned number 2. Do you think that it will affect all of our cars, because I am going away for college and I am bringing my car. The only thing that scares me is during winter my car might get snowed in even with snow tires and extra weight in the trunk. That is why I am considering trading it in for an awd.
I've only been stuck in total about 3 times and this was during the ice storm in toronto and 10+ cm of snow days we've had so far. I don't find it much of a problem and usually laugh it off. The first one, I had to dig out of using my feet while the other two I just went forward and backwards really fast. Not a huge issue for me as the positives out weight the negatives.
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I've only been stuck in total about 3 times and this was during the ice storm in toronto and 10+ cm of snow days we've had so far. I don't find it much of a problem and usually laugh it off. The first one, I had to dig out of using my feet while the other two I just went forward and backwards really fast. Not a huge issue for me as the positives out weight the negatives.
Well it snows often in the Midwest so I hope snow tires will help me throughout the winter, after hearing many peoples reviews on tires I just might try it out. That or trade it in for a ralliart.
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Well it snows often in the Midwest so I hope snow tires will help me throughout the winter, after hearing many peoples reviews on tires I just might try it out. That or trade it in for a ralliart.
I have no weight in my trunk, first winter in a RWD coupe, just learned manual, battled 15cm of snow, with blizzaks ws70, me and my car laughed at snow and ice while I do tenths of deliveries around the city in all conditions.

The only thing that would and did stop me was the height of snow. Once it reaches a certained height, we are screwed regardless.
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I have no weight in my trunk, first winter in a RWD coupe, just learned manual, battled 15cm of snow, with blizzaks ws70, me and my car laughed at snow and ice while I do tenths of deliveries around the city in all conditions.

The only thing that would and did stop me was the height of snow. Once it reaches a certained height, we are screwed regardless.
Alright cool, this made me a lot comfortable about depending on snow tires.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:21 AM   #36
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We may yet be graced with slip-angle, friction circle, and mu tutorials since his banishment could only be a temporary time-out.
Like I wrote on his deleted thread, when summer rolls around he'll start a thread on Summer Driving Problems complaining about his higher load rating all season tires with stiffer sidewalls on stock suspension being all skittish on the wet.
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Well it snows often in the Midwest so I hope snow tires will help me throughout the winter, after hearing many peoples reviews on tires I just might try it out. That or trade it in for a ralliart.
Our snow banks are like 6 feet tall right now, and I haven't gotten stuck this winter at all. I got stuck once last year, but it was in an unplowed parking lot after getting about 18" of snow that day. There were SUV's stuck in the same lot, but I managed to get out by carefully rocking back and forth, then backing out the tracks I had come in.
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Old 02-04-2014, 08:35 AM   #38
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Alright cool, this made me a lot comfortable about depending on snow tires.
Kelby, you gotta get winters. Only the foolish and wreckless dont get them here. It's night and day. Or like life and death, really. Just remember that the car won't handle quite the same
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Got it, I will get snow tires this year!
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I have yet to put any big weight in the back and have no complaints about it. Does it really make that big of a positive difference?
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I'm on my second winter without adding weight and no issues. It might be better with some weight, might be worse, but I haven't felt the need to try yet.
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I would agree that every car with descent tires should be ok.

But I'd have to say, driving an automatic car on snow, especially those with the CVTs = I got no idea what the wheels are doing. With a proper setup (*cough cough, 3 pedals), you can easily accelerate, engine brake or remove power to the wheels, best things ever in snow
Definitely having the 3rd pedal is a great aid in winter driving - a nice rev-matched downshift (or double clutch) makes slowing down a breeze.
I've been driving with TC off lately just for the experience (granted our conditions haven't been too bad lately), and the car is very predictable.

If anything, oversteer isn't much of a problem (I only get that by giving too much gas intentionally) - I have found myself overcooking a few 90 degree corners and understeering (nothing straightening the wheels and giving brakes won't fix)
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