Best Xenon HID kit for scion frs GT86 ?

[dssence]

Originally Posted by soundman98

no, they are more of a middle ground. they will have the same output pattern as the standard halogen bulbs, but will output more light. but less light then a hid kit.

but the bonus is that there is zero warmup time like there is with hid's, and they are legal to install because they are still halogen bulbs.

here's a thread with some output shot comparisons of a vw with stock halogen's and hir bulbs.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthrea...1#post69693937

as far as where to buy, i'm not really sure..

this thread might have some information:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/show...-amp-Catz-Zeta)

but i've never really needed hir bulbs, so my knowledge of them only extends to knowing of their benefits and their existence..

So you're using normal halogen bulbs ? I've seen a video of a guy on the road driving and a car on his side passes him over with xenon hids and the light outputted it's almost the same.

[serith]

Originally Posted by Coreyviper

Yeah I read that too. Anything past 6000k IMO is asking for trouble. The way my gf's 6000k's look, compare pretty similar to the HIDS you'd see on a stock BMW. Higher the K, higher chance to get busted.


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This. Not only does anything above ~4300K put out blue unusable light, but the majority of ballasts are absolute dog shit which will skew the light output of your bulbs even more! Just do some quick googling or youtubing to see this. I went through a few pairs of HID's from different manufactures and finally gave up and went back to stock halogens. I dealt with everything from low light output, to flickering, to bulbs turning off. The headache just wasn't worth it. I'll just make sure the next car I upgrade to has HID's stock.

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by serith

This. Not only does anything above ~4300K put out blue unusable light, but the majority of ballasts are absolute dog shit which will skew the light output of your bulbs even more! Just do some quick googling or youtubing to see this. I went through a few pairs of HID's from different manufactures and finally gave up and went back to stock halogens. I dealt with everything from low light output, to flickering, to bulbs turning off. The headache just wasn't worth it. I'll just make sure the next car I upgrade to has HID's stock.

So through all that a pair of OEM denso ballast, a set of quality OEM bulbs and a proper projector wouldn't be the answer??

OP, if your wanting maximum light out put properly, then go on TRS, buy the quick kit for our cars, it's a true bixenon projector, low and high beam, buy quality halogen bulbs for the high beam to work properly.. The Mini H1 6.0 is a good projector.. But not great.. I'd look into OEM projectors like maybe a FXR and retrofit that in.. Even the RX350 with a clear lens and tuned should bolt in pretty easily.. This requires you to bake your headlight apart and spend some time.. But the results are worth it, and the out put is amazing compared to anything the stock FRS tries to do with PnP kits

I'm doing a set of winjets now converting them to RHD and sending them to South Africa. If you can't do it, you can always get with a retrofitter that can.. It might be a little expensive but if maximum lighting is what your after, it's the only way to go to achieve it..

As far as kits go, I personally would only deal with theretrofitsource.com or diodedynamics.com.. Never one of those cheesy amazon, eBay vendors.. But people that actually know about lighting and the products they sale, instead of someone buying enough crap from china then selling it to make a buck

[soundman98]

Originally Posted by dssence

So you're using normal halogen bulbs ? I've seen a video of a guy on the road driving and a car on his side passes him over with xenon hids and the light outputted it's almost the same.

i've got a brz, so i have factory hid.


the appearance of hid looking like the same as halogen in the situation of 2 cars passing each other depends on a massive amount of factors.

i've seem some horrendous hid-equipped cars that serve better as indicator lights then forward-driving lights.. but i've also seen halogen headlights that have output so good, i wouldn't mind driving the car simply for the headlights.

the design of the housing plays a major part in all of it, and while there is a minimum federal standard for headlight output, even the worst halogen headlights meets that standard, so there's no good way to judge any design that exceeds the standard like hid lights, or really good halogen lights would do.

every car on the road has a different headlight housing, so that makes for thousands, if not millions, of different variations in light output quality from headlights, so it's very hard to quantitatively say that because of one video, hid's are no better then halogens.

[dssence]

Originally Posted by soundman98

i've got a brz, so i have factory hid.


the appearance of hid looking like the same as halogen in the situation of 2 cars passing each other depends on a massive amount of factors.

i've seem some horrendous hid-equipped cars that serve better as indicator lights then forward-driving lights.. but i've also seen halogen headlights that have output so good, i wouldn't mind driving the car simply for the headlights.

the design of the housing plays a major part in all of it, and while there is a minimum federal standard for headlight output, even the worst halogen headlights meets that standard, so there's no good way to judge any design that exceeds the standard like hid lights, or really good halogen lights would do.

every car on the road has a different headlight housing, so that makes for thousands, if not millions, of different variations in light output quality from headlights, so it's very hard to quantitatively say that because of one video, hid's are no better then halogens.

kay I got it now , hey that subaru brz side fenders are so sexy ! wanted to swap mine for the subaru one but they're hell expensive.
So if you were in my situation I got a toyota 86FT which is base no xenon headlight, but they do have fog lights installed at least it's soemthing. Would you install some third party HIDS? or they're useless i'm trying to decide myself between some HIRS cause I really liked the output..I've also tried to find some high beam replacements with led bulbs from CREE some do have lot's of small SMD led's which are shitty compared to the big leds to the sides of other bulbs. I thought I was going to find a replacement led over xeons hids but checked and checked vids on youtube and nothing could be xenon in distance and angle maybe that has to do with the enclsoure the xenon hids are built in adding more distance.. honestly don't know as I haven't owned any hids at all.
So I listen to your advice to a humble toyota 86 FT owner without hids heh

[soundman98]

well if i were in your shoes with an 86ft/fr-s, i would do a retrofit to the car to install at least an fx-r or murano projector, but i'm a mod over at hidplanet, so i'm kinda biased towards retrofitting the low beams with a hid-compatible projector.

if you do a lot of driving with the highbeams on, then it would be ok to install a hid kit there, but if you're more in the city where you can't use the highbeam all the time, then an hir for that would be the best option for that..

[sato]

Originally Posted by mrlewistan

^^^ gixxer gave me advice when i was thinking about going hid. his advice is always good

Not sure if anybody else posted about this...

To follow up on his advice, I would highly recommend running HIR 9011 bulbs instead of the 9005 for the high beams. Their light output is much increased from the stock high beam bulb (9005) and only require minor modification to fit (some sellers mod them prior to sale).

My 2008 Solar headlights have them, and a few coworkers tell me them are blinding on their own... Not sure if the GT86, series 10, Monogram HID lamps use them stock.



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[dssence]

Originally Posted by sato

Not sure if anybody else posted about this...

To follow up on his advice, I would highly recommend running HIR 9011 bulbs instead of the 9005 for the high beams. Their light output is much increased from the stock high beam bulb (9005) and only require minor modification to fit (some sellers mod them prior to sale).

My 2008 Solar headlights have them, and a few coworkers tell me them are blinding on their own... Not sure if the GT86, series 10, Monogram HID lamps use them stock.



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Can you lendme a hand over here. I was thinking into repalcing the stock halogen bulbs for HIR's over the low beams on my toyota 86 FT. i've seen some philips HIRS will these work ?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-9011...9f6998&vxp=mtr

will these fit my Toyota 86 FT ? would the plug connector fit properly like plug and play. These are for low beams ? Low beams are inside the projector I think.
Now will these generate WHITEST light? pure white?

I was wondering which are the stock bulbs on low beams on my toyota 86 FT and which are the high beams in watts and manufacturer as well.

[speedrye]

No, those won't work for your low beam H11 bulbs. I don't believe HIRs are available as a replacement for H11 bulbs.

Those will fit your standard 9005 high beam bulbs however. You'll need to trim one tab on the light to match your 9005 bulb, but otherwise, it's plug and play. The light output isn't white like HIDs. It's like a halogen, just brighter and slightly whiter. Definitely an improvement over my burnt stock 9005 bulbs.

[sato]

Read a bit over at hirheadlights.com
The slightly modded 9011 were meant as upgrades to 9005 and 9012 for 9006. For H11, you could use H9 as upgrades (slight bulb base mod needed, same as with 9011), but would not recommend since H9 are meant for "limited use" high beam, rated for less hours and eventually die too quickly when used continuously (been there, done that). Do go for the 9011 upgrade. I still have an old headlight laying around... Will let you know if the Toyota included 9011 are same fitment as the 9005.

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[vinh359]

Originally Posted by Gixxersixxerman

Sorry, forgot the link.. PMing you with the cheap hid kits

http://www.diodedynamics.com/store/l...rsion-kit.html

Hows the customers service and the warranty on this brand?

[Gixxersixxerman]

Originally Posted by vinh359

Hows the customers service and the warranty on this brand?

Well I've worked with Nick C at diode dynamics, and he got me to become a wholesaler and I've only ordered a few things from them since I haven't been with them long, and they have been more then great as far as customer service, and speed in shipping.. Everything is always updated, and when I did have a bad bulb the replacement was sent ASAP no questions asked.. And the replacement bulb has had no issues what so ever.. A friend introduced me to them from using them for awhile, and haven't had anything bad to say, which is why I went to them.. The warranty is 1 year on their stuff I believe.. I personally have no issues attaching my business with their brand

[eklectic8]

You can also check out HID Powerhouse out of Canada I think. Ordered all my led and HID from them. Quick shipping and great customer service. Their products are all top notch IMO.


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