BRZ/FRS vs 2015 WRX

[thill]

Originally Posted by Frost

In the video, Johnny Lieberman said the Focus ST and the WRX are the same money @ 10:30???

MSRP.. Yes.. They are in similar price range. But like most Ford's there are huge discounts on the ST. Which also means the Focus ST will depreciate like a typical Ford.

[illmatic]

From C&D...
0-60 4.8 sec
5-60 6.3 sec
13.6 sec @ 102 mph
0.95g
25 observed mpg

[boxer 2.5]

Literally an EVO for 10k less.

[DarkSunrise]

Nice! The 1/4 mile trapspeed is very solid at 102 mph. Looks like the fastest WRX yet, but not ready to declared it an Evo killer just yet.

[JS + BRZ]

Nice stats. Would love to get one as a dd.

RWD>>AWD>>FWD

[thill]

Originally Posted by DarkSunrise

Nice! The 1/4 mile trapspeed is very solid at 102 mph. Looks like the fastest WRX yet, but not ready to declared it an Evo killer just yet.

Yeah but it gets your within what, 9/10's of the Evo in performance for almost $10K less? Not to mention nicer interior, a useable trunk, a lot more front and rear legroom, and you are not buying a car from a manufacturer who barely has a pulse right now?

[DarkSunrise]

Originally Posted by thill

Yeah but it gets your within what, 9/10's of the Evo in performance for almost $10K less? Not to mention nicer interior, a useable trunk, a lot more front and rear legroom, and you are not buying a car from a manufacturer who barely has a pulse right now?

Haha yeah all valid points, but what I love about the Evo is the way it drives. For a heavy AWD car, it has surprisingly good steering and feedback. Until I test-drive the new WRX, I can't really say how it drives, but I'm with you, the figures on paper are definitely impressive.

[JS + BRZ]

Evo X was introduced back in 2008..

This new generation WRX just came out. It's 2014.

Just wait til Subaru releases STi version of this and Mitsu releases the new EVO to really compare them.

[thill]

Originally Posted by JS + MS3

Evo X was introduced back in 2008..

This new generation WRX just came out. It's 2014.

Just wait til Subaru releases STi version of this and Mitsu releases the new EVO to really compare them.

I am not sure we will see a new EVO anytime soon. There have been rumors of one, but nothing concrete and the President Mitsubishi Motors made a statement in December that the company is focusing on SUV's to increase sales and they may be looking for a partner to help build their sports cars with.

Similar to what Mazda is doing with Alfa Romeo and the new Miata.

[Whitigir]

Dang impressive .... 4.8 secs. Would be even more impressive if STI do 4.3.... Lol...i know....just dreaming

[GMU-BRZ]

Originally Posted by thill

I am not sure we will see a new EVO anytime soon. There have been rumors of one, but nothing concrete and the President Mitsubishi Motors made a statement in December that the company is focusing on SUV's to increase sales and they may be looking for a partner to help build their sports cars with.

Similar to what Mazda is doing with Alfa Romeo and the new Miata.

I was honestly unaware that Mitsubishi still made cars. I can't remember the last time I saw a new one. It's been years.

[Whitigir]

Originally Posted by GMU-BRZ

I was honestly unaware that Mitsubishi still made cars. I can't remember the last time I saw a new one. It's been years.

Really ? I see their outlander everywhere....some lancer....rarely Imev or wutever....

But be ware, Mitsubishi is a Giant company. Some how, they dont get into automotives as much as they used to anymore. But they are a Giant, with Giant budget...

[WolfpackS2k]

Originally Posted by illmatic

From C&D...
0-60 4.8 sec
5-60 6.3 sec
13.6 sec @ 102 mph
0.95g
25 observed mpg

The most telling stat is the rolling start, 5-60 mph. Eliminates the advantage of an AWD clutch punishing launch. Also that's what you're most likely to do on the street. At 6.3 seconds, that is not very impressive.

Finally saw one in person at Saturday's Cars & Coffee, in black. Lot of people were crowded around it so taking it all in was difficult. Sadly I wasn't any more impressed by the design in person than I had been on paper.

[Boxer486]

Originally Posted by Whitigir

Really ? I see their outlander everywhere....some lancer....rarely Imev or wutever....

But be ware, Mitsubishi is a Giant company. Some how, they dont get into automotives as much as they used to anymore. But they are a Giant, with Giant budget...

Not quite. Mitsubishi was broken up into 5 different companies decades ago. They have nothing to do with each other. If Mitsu auto goes under, no from the other Mitsus will notice. Mitsu auto is in serious trouble, largely of their own making.