Forced Induction Buyer's Guide | $5,000 +/- (otd) | Daily Driver Spec

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by hmong337

I don't know imperiousRex's car... but Evasive's car is far from a street car. FARRRRRRRRRR.

Crawford's car is a daily driver with kicking ass potential. Not sure if I'd want to DD Evasive's car.

Do you have any idea how loud the Crawford car is? Inside and out...

It looks like a street car, but good luck not getting pulled over in that.

I used to see the car at the track somewhat regularly, but I haven't seen it actually run in a while. I know Crawford's suffered multiple blown engines across several BRZs.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Consumer level Cosworth development is gone... out of luck there.

Cosworth in Torrance is gone. Not sure about Illinois.

What. The. ****. All hope for me is lost now, I had dreams of building a track RSTI. Not to say I can't anymore, but that's just, depressing

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

What. The. ****. All hope for me is lost now, I had dreams of building a track RSTI. Not to say I can't anymore, but that's just, depressing

You can still get Cosworth parts, but just not directly, iirc. I may be wrong; I don't follow STI stuff too closely anymore.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by hmong337

I don't know imperiousRex's car... but Evasive's car is far from a street car. FARRRRRRRRRR.

Crawford's car is a daily driver with kicking ass potential. Not sure if I'd want to DD Evasive's car.

To be fair, both of these cars are so highly modded that, atleast with my driving record I would be arrested (mind you arrested) outside of my driveway

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

You can still get Cosworth parts, but just not directly, iirc. I may be wrong; I don't follow STI stuff too closely anymore.

I don't fallow STI stuff much anymore either, I've just had a replica 22b in my head before I even knew about the 86 platform

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Do you have any idea how loud the Crawford car is? Inside and out...

It looks like a street car, but good luck not getting pulled over in that.

I used to see the car at the track somewhat regularly, but I haven't seen it actually run in a while. I know Crawford's suffered multiple blown engines across several BRZs.

The loud part you can always fix at the expense of horsepower which I'm okay with. Or better yet, just run a boost actuated bypass valve and that should pretty much solve any issues pertaining to flow and loudness.

I know Crawford has gone through some motors. As to be expected from developing, no? But it seems like they've finally got it right with their new longer rod setup from what I've been hearing.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Like I said before, I'd rather be over budget and feel safer about it, than meet budget and have to worry about heat soaking all the time. But yes, out the door it is a considerably more expensive kit. My thinking is, if I'm willing to drop 5k on an FI setup, waiting and saving an extra 2,500 is fine with me.

My suggestion (AVO kit) will not heat soak a DD and will be much cheaper. I also don't know if the Ptuning kit includes a basemap which would be an added cost if not.

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Can someone confirm this? This is all making me rethink turbo kit selection lol

Lots of turbo kits run a scavenging pump. Do your research about it and make your mind on whether you are willing to run it or not.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by hmong337

I know Crawford has gone through some motors. As to be expected from developing, no? But it seems like they've finally got it right with their new longer rod setup from what I've been hearing.

Stoker kit?!?

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Its amazing how the FA20, who's cast internals and total output rated 40 hp less to the crank than the f20/f22 are still comparable in terms of strength and power gains. Subaru really out did themselves with this new engine.

Too early to say that IMO.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

Lots of turbo kits run a scavenging pump. Do your research about it and make your mind on whether you are willing to run it or not.

Lol no no, I realize that. I was wondering if P-Tuning's pump was electrical or mechanical.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Too early to say that IMO.

Still, slapping a turbo kit on it to gain +100 modest whp seems to (generally) be sound besides defective piston heads and rods in the occasional failure in an engine, which I'm sure the F20/22 have had

[cdrazic93]

sorry guys, got off topic.

FBM or AVO kit if you want to stay within the 5-6k budget. If you don't mind spending a little more, than P-Tuning. Although my vote is now for P-Tuning, since P-Tuning uses the GT30, only 6 psi pushes 290+whp

[1086]

Please take this as mainly speculation but I think in order for something like that to happen, i.e. defective piston heads and rods in the occasional failure of an engine, you would need to be pushing over 300 whp with a non-sound tune and weak supporting mods. Otherwise, why would any of these vendors sell a stage 1 base kit? I assume these vendors understand that someone buying a stage 1 base kit is likely keeping majority of the car stock while looking to increase whp by 75-100 right?

If there was a unique situation where there was defective piston heads and rods, wouldn't the car show problems in its NA form before hitting FI, or will FI reveal weaknesses by itself where NA can't? (hopefully that made sense lol)

[CSG Mike]

My vote is still supercharger. It's simple and sustainable.

OT: rods being thrown in the F2xC is from a bad tune.