Forced Induction Buyer's Guide | $5,000 +/- (otd) | Daily Driver Spec

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

I've been back and forth looking at all options and considering all requirements for a DD. I am not the best example (had AVO, sold it and now custom kit).

I also did not pick other turbo kits because either quality is truly garbage or there are some heat issues for dd'ing (temps might go a little bit up on stuck traffic)

P-Tuning is trash?

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by hmong337

My unicorn and what I aspire my FRS to be like is the Crawford BRZ. That car, if built today, I'm guessing would probably be close to my $50k estimate. I'm certain Crawford spent lots more than that developing it.

Does anyone except Crawford actually run Crawford's setup?

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Does anyone except Crawford actually run Crawford's setup?

Probably not. And for that money I'd rather be running Cosworth parts instead. Go big or go home.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

P-Tuning is trash?

No, Ptuning is great quality, just expensive for the purpose of this thread. It is out of the question because the kit itself starts at $5300 which would put my selections roughly in the $7500 range....

[hmong337]

I'm all for the bottom mount turbo locations as they place that hot turbo away from the engine but there's just one thing that turns me off most... having to run a scavenging pump! Just another thing added to the list of potential fail points.

As said earlier, there really aren't any compromises here which is a bummer

I still think Ptuning has the best kit but be prepared to run an external oil pump if you're okay with that. AVO, same thing.

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by cdrazic93

Probably not. And for that money I'd rather be running Cosworth parts instead. Go big or go home.

Consumer level Cosworth development is gone... out of luck there.

Cosworth in Torrance is gone. Not sure about Illinois.

[Sportsguy83]

Originally Posted by hmong337

I'm all for the bottom mount turbo locations as they place that hot turbo away from the engine but there's just one thing that turns me off most... having to run a scavenging pump! Just another thing added to the list of potential fail points.

As said earlier, there really aren't any compromises here which is a bummer

I still think Ptuning has the best kit but be prepared to run an external oil pump if you're okay with that. AVO, same thing.

the AVO pump (I think Ptuning the same) has very little chance of failing because it is mechanical, not electrical. It will turn as long as the motor is turning.

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

Does anyone except Crawford actually run Crawford's setup?

None that I know of... But with their new engine internal setup, they seem to be having a lot more luck and way better results.

Tis a shame Crawford is banned from the largest FRS/BRZ community He would've been the crown of this community but the mods got too greedy, IMO.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZN_ARD3JtEo"]Bill Caswell and Crawford Performance 500HP Turbo BRZ at Redline Time Attack - YouTube[/ame]

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

the AVO pump (I think Ptuning the same) has very little chance of failing because it is mechanical, not electrical. It will turn as long as the motor is turning.

You're right! Forgot the AVO was mechanical. But I think Ptuning uses an electrical unit IIRC.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by Sportsguy83

No, Ptuning is great quality, just expensive for the purpose of this thread. It is out of the question because the kit itself starts at $5300 which would put my selections roughly in the $7500 range....

Like I said before, I'd rather be over budget and feel safer about it, than meet budget and have to worry about heat soaking all the time. But yes, out the door it is a considerably more expensive kit. My thinking is, if I'm willing to drop 5k on an FI setup, waiting and saving an extra 2,500 is fine with me.

[Brztuned]

definitely a thread worth subscribing to!

Can't wait to put ours under the knife!!

[CSG Mike]

Originally Posted by hmong337

None that I know of... But with their new engine internal setup, they seem to be having a lot more luck and way better results.

Tis a shame Crawford is banned from the largest FRS/BRZ community He would've been the crown of this community but the mods got too greedy, IMO.

What results do you speak of?

@ImperiousRex's street car is faster at the same track with half the power.

@Evasive Motorsport's car is 10 seconds faster at the same track with less power.

[cdrazic93]

Originally Posted by hmong337

You're right! Forgot the AVO was mechanical. But I think Ptuning uses an electrical unit IIRC.

Can someone confirm this? This is all making me rethink turbo kit selection lol

[hmong337]

Originally Posted by CSG Mike

What results do you speak of?

@ImperiousRex's street car is faster at the same track with half the power.

@Evasive Motorsport's car is 10 seconds faster at the same track with less power.

I don't know imperiousRex's car... but Evasive's car is far from a street car. FARRRRRRRRRR.

Crawford's car is a daily driver with kicking ass potential. Not sure if I'd want to DD Evasive's car.