Upgraded short block installed?

[Yruyur]

So had a rod bearing went out on cylinder 3 toyota replaced my short block. The service guy mentioned that I won't have the problem in the future because of the "upgraded" short block which they just did on another car two weeks prior.

Did they really revise it? If so does anyone have any details?

Part number is SU003-00093

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[s2d4]

Interesting, so you were running a visconti flex fuel tune and the dealership warranted the short block?

[strat61caster]

This should have been one thread, not two.

There is no public information about changes to the FA20 and I would be surprised if a dealership mechanic knew something we didn't. Unless someone comes around with access to Toyota's part database (there are a few around here) I'd call b.s. with someone just trying their best to send away a happy customer instead of a correctly informed one.

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by strat61caster

This should have been one thread, not two.

There is no public information about changes to the FA20 and I would be surprised if a dealership mechanic knew something we didn't. Unless someone comes around with access to Toyota's part database (there are a few around here) I'd call b.s. with someone just trying their best to send away a happy customer instead of a correctly informed one.

Let me translate this for y'all:

The dealership mechanic is bullshitting you

[kbye]

Sorry but that is the same part number as the short block used since 2012-03.
http://www.villagescionparts.com/pro...U00300093.html

[shiro]

IMHO, the Toyota mechanic is going to call the fixed or new short block "upgraded" since they just rebuilt it with new parts. So far through my analysis on these motors it's not the design that's failing us but Toyota's quality control. I assess the new part is labeled "upgraded" since it probably went through a better quailty control process even though it is the same part.

[s2d4]

@King Tut

[krayzie]

Originally Posted by shiro

IMHO, the Toyota mechanic is going to call the fixed or new short block "upgraded" since they just rebuilt it with new parts. So far through my analysis on these motors it's not the design that's failing us but Toyota's quality control. I assess the new part is labeled "upgraded" since it probably went through a better quailty control process even though it is the same part.

I think you mean Subaru's quality control.

Any parts of a car can get revised as time goes on, it's called a rolling change in production.

[shiro]

I agree with you that Subaru produces the parts and probably oversees the quality control. But as a joint project I kind of enjoy pointing the finger at Toyota lol :P But you are right; rolling changes in production do happen. Hopefully to the consumer's advantage too.

What would be cool is if these engines had the same quality like the old Dodge neon SRT-4 engines. It seems like you can push a lot of boost at those engines and they handle it like a champ.

Originally Posted by krayzie

I think you mean Subaru's quality control.

Any parts of a car can get revised as time goes on, it's called a rolling change in production.

[Muskokan]

Never heard "neon" and "quality" in the same sentence.

[krayzie]

The SU prefix on the part number denotes a Subaru part. Can't really point fingers at Toyota when they didn't produce it in their own manufacturing facility.

Welcome to globalization. This is not the Made in Japan of the 80's. Sad I know.

[Turbo95eg6]

Oh my, an upgrade! How wonderful. Did you thank them after?

[Yruyur]

Lol. No I pretty much questioned him. Implying I felt he was full of it.

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[FirestormFRS]

Originally Posted by kbye

Sorry but that is the same part number as the short block used since 2012-03.
http://www.villagescionparts.com/pro...U00300093.html

That's a short block part # yes. Internals of a short block can change without a part # change. The part # you reference is for the assembly who knows if the internals have changed.