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Slide · 05-03-2010, 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

I'll just remove mine. Who needs a back seat anyway.

My thoughts exactly. I like the look of a hatchback, but I always thought it just added weight.

You really think it would add that much extra if any... i think the weight that it might add you should head to the gym and lose some yourself.

Yes we want flat folding seats with 60/40 split and a hatch back version!!! :P

cyde01 · 05-03-2010, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Slide

You really think it would add that much extra if any... i think the weight that it might add you should head to the gym and lose some yourself.

ditto. lol i'm a slightly built 140 lbs.

thinkaboutit · 05-03-2010, 06:30 AM

Perhaps using the rear window as a stressed member of the chasis makes a coupe body more rigid than a hatch? Combined w/weight savings for coupe (no separate rear window frame/smaller rear window) it may make a noticeable difference in handling.

That being said, I do like hatches better b/c I can easily fit bulky items like a surfboard or bicycle through the back. Toyota should consider cargo/passenger space in designing the FT86 b/c it's the only significant advantage it will have over a Miata since they are priced the same now.

Jordo! · 05-03-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Slide

You really think it would add that much extra if any... i think the weight that it might add you should head to the gym and lose some yourself.

Yes we want flat folding seats with 60/40 split and a hatch back version!!! :P

Okay, I may be an American but I am not a fat American.

Dude, my body fat hovers around 10%. Let me hurl my backseat in the bin if I want to.

Sheesh...

Matador · 05-03-2010, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Slide

You really think it would add that much extra if any... i think the weight that it might add you should head to the gym and lose some yourself.

Yes we want flat folding seats with 60/40 split and a hatch back version!!! :P

The issue isn't just how much, it's where.

Matador · 05-03-2010, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkaboutit

That being said, I do like hatches better b/c I can easily fit bulky items like a surfboard or bicycle through the back. Toyota should consider cargo/passenger space in designing the FT86 b/c it's the only significant advantage it will have over a Miata since they are priced the same now.

It is? They are?

Siriusly.Andrew · 05-03-2010, 02:58 PM

in Canada the MX-5 with a 6 speed manual (available only on the GS and above models, start at $33,495. I doubt the FT-86 will be that much in Canada.

And the Canadian spec sheet reports the Miata has 167hp, 140ft-lbs, and weighs 1145kg (2524lbs)

If I went with the lowest available option, I'd lose the 6 speed for a 5 speed, but the price would drop to $28,995 and weight would drop to 1130kg (2490lbs)

Either way, we know the pricing for the FT-86 will be lower than 28,000 even for the "fully loaded" option. Mind you thats the US pricing, so hell, who knows what we'll be paying in Canada.

Edit :: wow pricing in the States is rediculous. Sport MX-5 with a 5 speed is $23,710. Touring with a 6 speed is $26,550. Maybe they had a price update in the States and it hasn't come over to Canada yet -- otherwise it'd be cheaper for a Canadian to fly into Seattle, buy a car, pay the import/inspection/insurance fees at the boarder and drive it home.

azian_advanced · 05-04-2010, 12:54 PM

US cars has always been significantly cheaper than canadian cars. a lot of dealers here import cars from the states all the time..

Siriusly.Andrew · 05-04-2010, 01:48 PM

I know we've always paid more for ... ahem ... almost everything... but I'd imagine with the dollar so close, prices would be a little more reasonable, and closer to home. But still having a 5k difference between base model cars is ludicrous.

I hope something changes soon, it's not like our cars are that much better either :P

Jordo! · 05-04-2010, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

The issue isn't just how much, it's where.

Although, that's a good point -- keeping the weight in the back would be a good idea... I'm so used to thinking about FF set ups.

Matador · 05-05-2010, 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordo!

Although, that's a good point -- keeping the weight in the back would be a good idea... I'm so used to thinking about FF set ups.

It's not so much about front to back, rather keeping the CoG, low.

Lexicon101 · 05-05-2010, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1

It's not so much about front to back, rather keeping the CoG, low.

It's ALWAYS about the front-to-back.
Giggity.

Matador · 05-05-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Lexicon101

It's ALWAYS about the front-to-back.
Giggity.

Mo.licious · 05-06-2010, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by enc0re

Blech, gooseneck hinges. My '93 Celica had better than that.

Werd. Oh well, you can't win 'em all.

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