How to destroy an engine in 7 days: My review of FA20club.com’s services & experience

[Yruyur]

Cool. Do you mind posting some logs for others to review?

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[King Tut]

Originally Posted by Chase Bays

This is in no way disagreeing with anything said here. I'm just sharing MY experience just like the original poster did.

I've had a great experience with FA20club. We did a mobile tune on my supercharged setup and it's been amazing. I have given the car HELL. I mean it. I've done six 2-day track days, drifted it...A LOT, and even drove it across the country with zero issues or even the slightest hiccup. That's all.

You are far from the only one. I was relatively happy with my FA20Club tune. It wasn't perfect, but it was good enough to drive all day every day. I sent my tunes and logs to @nelsmar when he was investigating his motor popping.

[husker741]

Originally Posted by King Tut

You are far from the only one. I was relatively happy with my FA20Club tune. It wasn't perfect, but it was good enough to drive all day every day. I sent my tunes and logs to @nelsmar when he was investigating his motor popping.

Just wondering, why would you be happy with a tune that wasn't great after you paid a price thinking you would be getting the best product possible. It shouldn't be just "good enough."

[SmsAlSuwaidi]

Originally Posted by husker741

Just wondering, why would you be happy with a tune that wasn't great after you paid a price thinking you would be getting the best product possible. It shouldn't be just "good enough."

Imho nobody is ever going to tune your car perfectly , if you want a perfect tune you are better of learning how to tune and doing it taking your sweet time; also slowly learning the car and doing very very minor adjustment

Well that what I've been taught by my uncle whom built cars and tuned motec for him self only for years


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[husker741]

Originally Posted by SmsAlSuwaidi

Imho nobody is ever going to tune your car perfectly , if you want a perfect tune you are better of learning how to tune and doing it taking your sweet time; also slowly learning the car and doing very very minor adjustment

Well that what I've been taught by my uncle whom built cars and tuned motec for him self only for years


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I understand that. But it shouldn't be "good enough." It should be as good as possible.

[RedLeader]

I was around for some of nelsmar's car foibles, and I somehow managed to get a great tune (after a few tries obviously) from FA20Club. My car is running like a champ, and the more I drive it, the less I worry about the tune (I beat my car hard, like a misbehaving redheaded step child). I have not hooked up a wideband o2 sensor so I guess I could be sitting on a timebomb like nelsmar was, but I have had none of the issues he was posting about. Sure, I've had slow service from Toni a couple of times, but I've never had any major complaints.

[fx35s]

I know nothing about tuning so all that gibberish was kinda interesting.. as if I was reading an organic chemistry textbook or something lol

But I'm glad you don't sound too doomed.. and thanks for the helpful information with the engine. I'm sure lot of tuners out there will appreciate your.. sacrifice

[OrbitalEllipses]

Originally Posted by civicdrivr

MHO, JV is a good guy in person and means well. He just needs a PR team to deal with his online persona.

Most of us do.

[utekineir]

Originally Posted by s2d4

I think it may even be hard for him to openly support a scammer.
Then again, the dude does seem to be a rather special person.

You saying he has aspergers or something?

[Ny Brz]

Great tuners are can be hard to find and even harder for someone who is not familiar with scene. In the beginning when Visconti was pushing out tunes everyone was talking about how great he was "get a Visconti tune" , I had a couple of run ins in the beginning with some local members on my opinion on him and what I personally knew of him, tuning wise. Of course everyone feels they are correct from their own experience or word of mouth, so I decided to just mind my own business. Then the whole big incident happens and people come out the wood work with their issues with. It seems like this is the same thing with Toni, in the beginning everyone was happy with his work but one of his mishaps tuning wise happens and is documented. everyone crucifies him (I'm not disagreeing with anything that has been said) and @nelsmar you are a bigger person than me because if i found out the incorrect methods of tuning had lead to my detonation you can best believe I'll make sure it's resolved one way or another. One thing to ask is how do if who is legit or not tuning wise, anyone can copy what is being done while watching someone tune but how do you know that person truly understand what he or she is doing. I've always wondered has this guy ever taken any classes for what he is doing, I myself am looking into taking the ACP class at EFI University. In terms of hardware I am happy with my FA20club UEL turbo kit thus far but we'll see how it holds up (I know there are numerous people with fitment issues, welds and missing items and can't blame you guys for voicing your frustration). I don't see FA20clubs turbo kit as a direct copy of anyone else, the turbo placement is in the same location as FBM but charge pipes run differently and I'm not sure if FBM is offering UEL headers yet with their kit, so it don't see how this kit would be a knock off. The previous pic that FBM posted Is undeniable of how bad that was of a knock using cheaper materials. As for my experience as of now I'm pleased with my FA20club kit and pleased with my tune from Junior(and yes Toni did try to pitch my the whole free tunes for life).

[Hawaiian]

Originally Posted by Ny Brz

Great tuners are can be hard to find and even harder for someone who is not familiar with scene. In the beginning when Visconti was pushing out tunes everyone was talking about how great he was "get a Visconti tune" , I had a couple of run ins in the beginning with some local members on my opinion on him and what I personally knew of him, tuning wise. Of course everyone feels they are correct from their own experience or word of mouth, so I decided to just mind my own business. Then the whole big incident happens and people come out the wood work with their issues with. It seems like this is the same thing with Toni, in the beginning everyone was happy with his work but one of his mishaps tuning wise happens and is documented. everyone crucifies him (I'm not disagreeing with anything that has been said) and @nelsmar you are a bigger person than me because if i found out the incorrect methods of tuning had lead to my detonation you can best believe I'll make sure it's resolved one way or another. One thing to ask is how do if who is legit or not tuning wise, anyone can copy what is being done while watching someone tune but how do you know that person truly understand what he or she is doing. I've always wondered has this guy ever taken any classes for what he is doing, I myself am looking into taking the ACP class at EFI University. In terms of hardware I am happy with my FA20club UEL turbo kit thus far but we'll see how it holds up (I know there are numerous people with fitment issues, welds and missing items and can't blame you guys for voicing your frustration) , in terms of this platform I don't see a direct copy of any kit. The turbo placement is in the same location as FBM but charge pipes run differently and I'm not sure if FBM is offering UEL headers yet with their kit, so it don't see how this kit would be a knock off. The previous pic that FBM posted Is undeniable of how bad that was of a knock using cheaper materials. As for my experience as of now I'm pleased with my FA20club kit and pleased with my tune from Junior(and yes Toni did try to pitch my the whole free tunes for life).

In that case you will love my post tomorrow.

[husker741]

Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Most of us do.

Most of us aren't representing our company or name like Visconti does. Most of us stay anonymous.

[WKM Houston]

I've been dealing with Toni for the last 5 months! I already purchased my Vortech supercharger from another individual. After a detailed talk with Toni, he recommended that I change my fuel pump and injectors. It took some growing pains to get these right and Toni was gracious enough to make a video for us!! The first couple files before E85 ran ok but once the fuel pump and injectors were installed it was a little harder to tune. I thought I had issues with the belt slipping and the pulley made out of plastic! So Toni comes to Houston to visit for a dyno day and he dials in my tune perfectly without any issues what so ever!!! He even suggested that I try the smaller pulley 3.12. Best run I had on the bigger pulley was 320whp. So One week later, I received the new pulley and installed it and took the car to get it dyno tuned at Phasetek. In less then 3 runs, Toni had the car dialed in perfectly with no issues what so ever! I'm am very happy with the level of support I've been getting with him and he way over delivered on his promises! Last dyno run was at 346 whp and 246 wtq! Toni was very flexible with his appointments with us as we did the remote tuning and also send him files from the dyno for comparison!!! It is a long tedious process to go thru but the results way exceeded my expectations!!! I hope that he will able to provide quality support to all affected and turn things around....

[Ny Brz]

Originally Posted by Hawaiian

In that case you will love my post tomorrow.

Sorry @Hawaiian I'm going to rephrase that as it came out wrong. What I meant to say is I don't see FA20clubs turbo kit as a direct copy of anyone else, mainly FBM since it had been stated he copied that pump in FBMs previous post. If you can find something that states that his Turbo kit is copied from someone else's design on this platform I have no problem in admitting I did not do my research well enough and fault.