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Old 01-18-2014, 05:02 PM   #15
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Friend of mine had an R32 and it went to the dealer something like 13 times for a gas smell and the dealer could never find it and they bought it back.
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Old 01-18-2014, 05:14 PM   #16
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Check out the Veloster...just throwing an option out there...

Also the Honda CRZ may be a neat hatch for her?

Also the Volvo S30 (or maybe the C30?)is pretty cool.
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Old 01-19-2014, 12:46 PM   #17
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I would also pass on the MK5 if you have the chance to get the 6...cam follower issue meant you essentially have to check it every ~30-50K. Not hard to do but kind of a pain to know that it is always slowly being consumed.
The last few years of the MK5 had the TSI engine found in the MK6, I believe the MKV engine was changed late in 2008. The TSI also uses a timing chain rather than a belt found in the older FSI.

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Another point about German cars that are off warranty is the premium you pay on parts. I came from a MK5 GTI, the aftermarket (not just performance but also replacement) is a lot more limited.
Compared to other more performance oriented cars, the aftermarket for the MKV & MKVI is sort of lacking, but there are some gems in there. APR Stage 1 reflash is all I would really do, maybe exhaust .. maybe .

I would stay away from the Golf R, as someone mentioned its a slightly revised version of the FSI engine found in older MKV GTIs (bigger turbo IIRC ) which means it has a timing belt vs chain, and has a self destructing cam follower.

MKVI or 09 MKV GTIs get my vote. I think you will be pleasantly surprised (if you haven't already driven one) how much better the MKV and MKVI are than a MKIV

Edit: As far as GTI vs R32, the R32 is around 300lb heavier than the GTI, and that weight is in the nose of the car. Admittedly I have never driven an R32 , but I would think it would understeer.
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Old 01-19-2014, 01:14 PM   #18
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The last few years of the MK5 had the TSI engine found in the MK6, I believe the MKV engine was changed late in 2008. The TSI also uses a timing chain rather than a belt found in the older FSI.



Compared to other more performance oriented cars, the aftermarket for the MKV & MKVI is sort of lacking, but there are some gems in there. APR Stage 1 reflash is all I would really do, maybe exhaust .. maybe .

I would stay away from the Golf R, as someone mentioned its a slightly revised version of the FSI engine found in older MKV GTIs (bigger turbo IIRC ) which means it has a timing belt vs chain, and has a self destructing cam follower.

MKVI or 09 MKV GTIs get my vote. I think you will be pleasantly surprised (if you haven't already driven one) how much better the MKV and MKVI are than a MKIV

Edit: As far as GTI vs R32, the R32 is around 300lb heavier than the GTI, and that weight is in the nose of the car. Admittedly I have never driven an R32 , but I would think it would understeer.
Before I drove the focus st I would have disagreed and said yes to more power, but now I think youre right. ~250hp is enough for the fronts to deal with.

I drove a R32 a while back with the salesman with me so I only gave it about 6/10 in a couple of corners and it felt pretty good, heavy but solid. She isn't really into canyon carving or autox so understeer isn't a huge concern for her. She's more of a stop light dragster.

Thanks for the advice about avoiding the FSI.
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Check out the Veloster...just throwing an option out there...

Also the Honda CRZ may be a neat hatch for her?

Also the Volvo S30 (or maybe the C30?)is pretty cool.
While Korean cars have made HUGE steps forward lately, im still not sure about them.

The CRZ looks okay but falls short as far as being a hot hatch, plus it only has 2 seats.

I actually really like tthe C30 but she hates the back end, and she thinks Volvo are for "yuppies and hipsters".
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Old 01-19-2014, 02:01 PM   #20
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Get the R32.

Throw fireballs.

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Profit.

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Old 01-19-2014, 02:19 PM   #21
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I have a golf r 2013. It's a phenomenal car and amazing in snow even with summer tires.
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Golf R is better for ur gf, if it's u who are driving then I will say R32

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I have a golf r 2013. It's a phenomenal car and amazing in snow even with summer tires.
Not sure what LSD in your location means, but you should come to Wookies in the Woods in April.

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Not sure what LSD in your location means, but you should come to Wookies in the Woods in April.

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Old 01-21-2014, 02:22 AM   #25
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I would say Golf R. I would also have her test drive a 2014 WRX hatch before they are gone they are right in your price range and would have more power and AWD. And would be brand new.

And there is also the option of waiting for the 2015 GTI. It seems like the MKVII is a pretty big upgrade over the MKVI and would be worth waiting for. Especially with the performance package.
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I actually really like tthe C30 but she hates the back end, and she thinks Volvo are for "yuppies and hipsters".
That's too bad. As far as unique and interesting hatches go, the C30 fits the bill nicely. No, it isn't the "hot hatch" that the GTI, Focus ST or MS3 are, but it makes up for it with insanely comfortable seats and that exclusivity factor. If I was looking for something fun, quick, comfortable and unique to commute to work and putz around town in, the C30 would be at the top of my list. The tuning community is pretty small but I know a lot of the previous Focus ST (European 5-cylinder model) parts swap over without much fuss.



Besides, yuppies drive new BMWs (not hatchbacks) and hipsters drive MKIV Volkswagens with $5k wheels and rusted hoods.
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I drove an S40 T4 before the Audi - brilliant cars. Can't say I was ever called a hipster. Old man maybe, but not hipster

Great cars, great value for money and they drive for ever.
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I'd rather drag my balls against broken glass than see you get any other golf other than the R32. there is something about that car that i find beautiful, not sure what it is but its just so nice. I made the decision to get an 86 and now trying to convince my dad to sell his F150 and get an 09 R32. 86 during the week and when he uses his weekend car, i use the R32. I swear, I'm a genius.
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