i don't understand why anyone would pay extra $$$ over base model for this car - Page 2 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

tbertran · 01-10-2014, 11:47 PM

Get this: when I got my BRZ, it had just come out and supply was nearly non-existent. After calling every dealership within 500 miles, to no avail, my local dealership called me up one day to tell there just had been a pre-order cancellation and that I should rush over here before it flies out the lot (and, flying, they did back then).
I happily paid $3,500 *over* MSRP for the fully loaded Limited BRZ.
Call me whatever you want, I really don't care, but we were the early adopters... Not today's bandwagon riders!

fatoni · 01-10-2014, 11:52 PM

whats tiring is that its another thread where someone is talking shit on a car for being more expensive than the frs. whats slightly more unique about this is that its someone talking shit on the much more versatile option within the twins choices. not understanding the value of, dual climate control, hids, non hideous corolla hvac controls, heated mirrors, navigation, leather seats etc. doesnt make us stupid...

ps my brz limited was 27200 right here in socal so maybe its your inability to research that is leaving you baffled.

headlikeahole · 01-11-2014, 12:01 AM

People pay 30+ thousand for Honda civics re-branded as Acuras. The point is people are stupid and there's money to be made.

#944_10_Series_FRS · 01-11-2014, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monogram

The difference between our 2014 IS350 and 2012 IS350 is night and day... about the same difference between or 2012 IS350 and 2010 Camry SE.

Lexus is not a rebadged Toyota. Not even close.

Proof? It's all in the drive.

Toyota Harier = Lexus RX350

Jaywest717 · 01-11-2014, 12:34 AM

I bought this car (FR-S 10 Series) because I wanted it. I had been looking at cars for a few months and chose this one. That is all.

Fett4Real · 01-11-2014, 12:38 AM

The HID headlights are 1200 EACH from a vendor...do the math its worth the money

#944_10_Series_FRS · 01-11-2014, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monogram

ES350 = Camry

Same chassis, completely different driving experience.

I don't know whether ES350=Camry is identical but I am 100% sure Toyota Harier is Lexus RX350 because I own the 2007 RX350 and I have been riding inside the 2005 Toyota Harier while traveling in Hong Kong. These 2 are identical and the driving experience is the same.

See link for info between Harier vs RX350
http://toyotaharrier-lexusrx-differe...re-buying.html

OmarGC · 01-11-2014, 12:54 AM

I don't understand how people pay 4k for an avo turbo kit. AVO's genius, making more profit then every other kit in the market.

Turbo95eg6 · 01-11-2014, 01:14 AM

Blows my mind why OP cares about what other people want and afford in a car.

oldpueblo · 01-11-2014, 01:24 AM

I don't get why people pay over $100,000 more for the same shape thing with four wheels that goes places. Crazy shit.

Jegan_V · 01-11-2014, 08:18 AM

I don't understand why the OP thinks choices are a bad thing. If you don't think its worth it...don't bloody buy it! I went with it because I wanted a more comfortable version of the car. Nothing in a Monogram or BRZ Limited detracts from the essence of this car which is to be a fun daily driving sports car. I feel more comfortable with brighter head lights. I feel more comfortable setting my own temperature since most of my passengers think I leave my temp too cold. I carry tons of keys these days(including car keys), not needing to fish for my car keys is a bonus. Heated seats is the best feature in a cold country like Canada.

If you're criticizing that it should only cost more only if its got more power in the form of a turbo or larger displacement...that's fine but at this point in my life I don't care about power anymore. I've driven a current Mustang GT and its very nice...but its best aspect being the power...I can't freaking use on the road unless I want to go broke on tickets or lose my license. I feel really stupid having 412 hp and driving speed limit because I'd be wasting money on fuel and initial cost for potential power I can't use. Contrast to the fully loaded BRZ or FRS, I will be using those features most or all the time, that's what value is.

Bottom line, if you want more power I think Toyota and Subaru should offer that choice. If you want the least expensive version, that's great because that choice is available. Today, the Monograms are available and give FRS owners the choice of a more comfortable version of the car. Stop complaining and enjoy your car.

Kimsey47 · 01-11-2014, 08:49 AM

DarkSunrise · 01-11-2014, 09:30 AM

Everyone has different values/preferences. Once you understand that, you'll be more at peace in life.

MightyMeeple · 01-11-2014, 09:44 AM

01-10-2014, 11:47 PM	#15
tbertran Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Drives: Subaru BRZ (6027xx) Premium Manual Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 280 Thanks: 83 Thanked 171 Times in 85 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Get this: when I got my BRZ, it had just come out and supply was nearly non-existent. After calling every dealership within 500 miles, to no avail, my local dealership called me up one day to tell there just had been a pre-order cancellation and that I should rush over here before it flies out the lot (and, flying, they did back then). I happily paid $3,500 over MSRP for the fully loaded Limited BRZ. Call me whatever you want, I really don't care, but we were the early adopters... Not today's bandwagon riders! __________________ FT86SpeedFactory catted UEL Header / GReddy EVO3 Catback / Cosworth Drop-in air filter / Shifteck short throw shifter / Kartboy pulley / Rear bumper diffuser / Perrin shorty antenna / Raceseng Slammer knob / Carsmo armrest / Clear side markers / 10" CustomSubEnclosure\|Rockford R500X1D\|Rockford P3D4-10 / Perrin Inlet Hose / GrimmSpeed front strut bar / Valentine V1 with BlendMount / All LED Inside

01-11-2014, 12:54 AM	#22
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01-11-2014, 08:49 AM	#26
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01-11-2014, 09:30 AM	#27
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01-11-2014, 09:44 AM	#28
MightyMeeple Slower than Fast Join Date: Feb 2013 Drives: BRZ Limited 6MT Location: Research Triangle Park, NC Posts: 431 Thanks: 290 Thanked 220 Times in 132 Posts Mentioned: 6 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	__________________ *Build Thread*

01-10-2014, 11:52 PM	#16
fatoni Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Drives: miata, mazdaspeed protege, ls430 Location: socal Posts: 4,416 Thanks: 599 Thanked 1,443 Times in 787 Posts Mentioned: 28 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	whats tiring is that its another thread where someone is talking shit on a car for being more expensive than the frs. whats slightly more unique about this is that its someone talking shit on the much more versatile option within the twins choices. not understanding the value of, dual climate control, hids, non hideous corolla hvac controls, heated mirrors, navigation, leather seats etc. doesnt make us stupid... ps my brz limited was 27200 right here in socal so maybe its your inability to research that is leaving you baffled.

01-11-2014, 12:01 AM	#17
headlikeahole Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Drives: Ultramarine toyobaru Location: NS Canada Posts: 605 Thanks: 311 Thanked 576 Times in 221 Posts Mentioned: 3 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	People pay 30+ thousand for Honda civics re-branded as Acuras. The point is people are stupid and there's money to be made.

01-11-2014, 12:34 AM	#19
Jaywest717 Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2013 Scion FR-S 10-Series Location: Virginia Posts: 52 Thanks: 33 Thanked 26 Times in 13 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I bought this car (FR-S 10 Series) because I wanted it. I had been looking at cars for a few months and chose this one. That is all.

01-11-2014, 12:38 AM	#20
Fett4Real AKA Mugen Dom Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 2013 FR-S, 2007 FJ Voodoo Blue Location: Hill AFB UT Posts: 957 Thanks: 125 Thanked 337 Times in 239 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	The HID headlights are 1200 EACH from a vendor...do the math its worth the money

01-11-2014, 01:14 AM	#23
Turbo95eg6 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2013 Drives: 2014 BRZ SWP LTD Location: The 503 Posts: 2,174 Thanks: 331 Thanked 2,266 Times in 858 Posts Mentioned: 18 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Blows my mind why OP cares about what other people want and afford in a car.

01-11-2014, 08:18 AM	#25
Jegan_V Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: 2023 Subaru BRZ Location: Toronto Posts: 433 Thanks: 67 Thanked 275 Times in 156 Posts Mentioned: 5 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I don't understand why the OP thinks choices are a bad thing. If you don't think its worth it...don't bloody buy it! I went with it because I wanted a more comfortable version of the car. Nothing in a Monogram or BRZ Limited detracts from the essence of this car which is to be a fun daily driving sports car. I feel more comfortable with brighter head lights. I feel more comfortable setting my own temperature since most of my passengers think I leave my temp too cold. I carry tons of keys these days(including car keys), not needing to fish for my car keys is a bonus. Heated seats is the best feature in a cold country like Canada. If you're criticizing that it should only cost more only if its got more power in the form of a turbo or larger displacement...that's fine but at this point in my life I don't care about power anymore. I've driven a current Mustang GT and its very nice...but its best aspect being the power...I can't freaking use on the road unless I want to go broke on tickets or lose my license. I feel really stupid having 412 hp and driving speed limit because I'd be wasting money on fuel and initial cost for potential power I can't use. Contrast to the fully loaded BRZ or FRS, I will be using those features most or all the time, that's what value is. Bottom line, if you want more power I think Toyota and Subaru should offer that choice. If you want the least expensive version, that's great because that choice is available. Today, the Monograms are available and give FRS owners the choice of a more comfortable version of the car. Stop complaining and enjoy your car.

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