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Iceman · 01-08-2014, 11:33 PM

Pretty cool build, anyone who cares this much about Chapman's philosophy gets my respect.

phastafrican · 01-09-2014, 12:11 AM

Never asked, what are the actual plans for the dash?

Anthony · 01-09-2014, 12:14 AM

Get rid of as much as I can without getting it to the point where I can bring it back to stock if I need to.

phastafrican · 01-09-2014, 12:32 AM

Cool. I'll take it that making it presentable isn't even on the table?

milchmann · 01-09-2014, 01:38 AM

Nice work man. You already have most of the auto-x philosophy down. Super light, and just enough power to push it around the turn nicely. One thing you might need to consider is the DB restrictions for most clubs. A silencer will solve that at minimal weight if it is an issue. All of the clubs that I have ever encountered have a novice division that you will be place in btw. You will definitely be competitive ... and that will be addictive.

There are a few things that you will probably want to consider if you are serious about making that thing fly around turns that go a little against your philosophy.

Stitch or Seam welding the chassis.

Chassis bracing bars, especially with the rear seat removed the chassis is going to flex more.

I would also definitely take out that sound deadening. Here is a video on how to do that correctly.

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FqkxgcjRQQ"]The Right Way to Remove Sound Deadening with Dry Ice - YouTube[/ame]

milchmann · 01-09-2014, 01:50 AM

You might also consider removing all of the wiring for the dome light, trunk light, HVAC, stereo etc. You would be amazed at how much wires can weight ... plus you get to use more zip ties

Bad Habits · 01-09-2014, 02:15 AM

Christ, last time I looked at this thread there was a car there! Can't wait to hear what it weighs.

kurbkilla · 01-09-2014, 02:51 AM

I did all this once. Dry ice and all. Even made an aluminum dash for more gauges. And I will never do it again for a daily driver.

Tanuki · 01-09-2014, 03:08 AM

I think the sound deadening weighs so little that unless it comes out incredibly easy, you should just leave it.

Anthony · 01-09-2014, 03:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milchmann

Nice work man. You already have most of the auto-x philosophy down. Super light, and just enough power to push it around the turn nicely. One thing you might need to consider is the DB restrictions for most clubs. A silencer will solve that at minimal weight if it is an issue. All of the clubs that I have ever encountered have a novice division that you will be place in btw. You will definitely be competitive ... and that will be addictive.

There are a few things that you will probably want to consider if you are serious about making that thing fly around turns that go a little against your philosophy.

Stitch or Seam welding the chassis.

Chassis bracing bars, especially with the rear seat removed the chassis is going to flex more.

I would also definitely take out that sound deadening. Here is a video on how to do that correctly.

Thanks! All the Tomei exhausts come with silencers. I don't think NOLA Motorsports Park has a DB limit though. It's out in the middle of nowhere within an industrial area. I've done a good bit of track days there on my sport bike and there have been some crazy-loud bikes there and no one even brought it up.

As for the chassis bracing, I know how beneficial it can be. I'll probably do that after I've gotten it as light as I can. I know the benefits of the stiffness will far outweigh the negative side effects of the additional weight. So I'll be holding off on bracing and aero parts until the end.

Thanks for the video too. I was going to look that up eventually, but now I can just watch that one first. I'm still not even done gutting it, but I'm definitely on the down hill with that.

Anthony · 01-09-2014, 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanuki

I think the sound deadening weighs so little that unless it comes out incredibly easy, you should just leave it.

Only one way to find out...

kurbkilla · 01-09-2014, 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tanuki

I think the sound deadening weighs so little that unless it comes out incredibly easy, you should just leave it.

It surprisingly weighs more then you might think. When I did it on my 83 celica the carpet was 18-22lb and the noise tar was about 30lb.

Anthony · 01-09-2014, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kurbkilla

It surprisingly weighs more then you might think. When I did it on my 83 celica the carpet was 18-22lb and the noise tar was about 30lb.

Holy shit. It can't weigh that much in our cars though. There's just not that much of it. I hope that's how much it weighs though.

phastafrican · 01-09-2014, 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anthony

Holy shit. It can't weigh that much in our cars though. There's just not that much of it. I hope that's how much it weighs though.

I actually hope there IS around 30lbs of it there. Between that and my window glass removal, I would almost negate roll cage weight.

01-09-2014, 12:14 AM	#213
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01-09-2014, 01:38 AM	#215
milchmann Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 1987 AE86 -- 2013 ZN6 -- 1994 DC5 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Nice work! Nice work man. You already have most of the auto-x philosophy down. Super light, and just enough power to push it around the turn nicely. One thing you might need to consider is the DB restrictions for most clubs. A silencer will solve that at minimal weight if it is an issue. All of the clubs that I have ever encountered have a novice division that you will be place in btw. You will definitely be competitive ... and that will be addictive. There are a few things that you will probably want to consider if you are serious about making that thing fly around turns that go a little against your philosophy. Stitch or Seam welding the chassis. Chassis bracing bars, especially with the rear seat removed the chassis is going to flex more. I would also definitely take out that sound deadening. Here is a video on how to do that correctly. [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FqkxgcjRQQ"]The Right Way to Remove Sound Deadening with Dry Ice - YouTube[/ame]

01-08-2014, 11:33 PM	#211
Iceman Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Drives: GT86 Location: Nordschleife Posts: 210 Thanks: 456 Thanked 188 Times in 91 Posts Mentioned: 2 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Pretty cool build, anyone who cares this much about Chapman's philosophy gets my respect.

01-09-2014, 12:11 AM	#212
phastafrican Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven Scion FR-S Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 437 Thanks: 118 Thanked 171 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Never asked, what are the actual plans for the dash?

01-09-2014, 12:32 AM	#214
phastafrican Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Drives: 2013 Raven Scion FR-S Location: Fernandina Beach, FL Posts: 437 Thanks: 118 Thanked 171 Times in 112 Posts Mentioned: 13 Post(s) Tagged: 3 Thread(s)	Cool. I'll take it that making it presentable isn't even on the table?

01-09-2014, 01:50 AM	#216
milchmann Junior Member Join Date: May 2013 Drives: 1987 AE86 -- 2013 ZN6 -- 1994 DC5 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 3 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	You might also consider removing all of the wiring for the dome light, trunk light, HVAC, stereo etc. You would be amazed at how much wires can weight ... plus you get to use more zip ties

01-09-2014, 02:15 AM	#217
Bad Habits Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Drives: br zed Location: Nc Posts: 234 Thanks: 199 Thanked 117 Times in 64 Posts Mentioned: 0 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Christ, last time I looked at this thread there was a car there! Can't wait to hear what it weighs.

01-09-2014, 02:51 AM	#218
kurbkilla Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Drives: Scion FRS (Asphalt) Location: Camarillo Posts: 217 Thanks: 63 Thanked 26 Times in 19 Posts Mentioned: 1 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	I did all this once. Dry ice and all. Even made an aluminum dash for more gauges. And I will never do it again for a daily driver.

01-09-2014, 03:08 AM	#219
Tanuki Turtle Factory Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: Mint M3 Location: PDX Posts: 1,286 Thanks: 1,021 Thanked 614 Times in 312 Posts Mentioned: 9 Post(s) Tagged: 1 Thread(s)	I think the sound deadening weighs so little that unless it comes out incredibly easy, you should just leave it.

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