Disabled the driving aids. Here are my impressions.

[SubiePig]

All the aids are there for safety and honestly what they are designed to do they do quite well in their proper environment. I usually do the button hold when I get in the car but the few times I forgot and the back end slid I was impressed how well it will recollect the car. That being said, pedal dance or button hold I have always had problems with trail braking in autocross, not so much on track. The car doesn't like it at all and its quite annoying.

If you are in the "omgerd he did the pedal dance of death and is now going to run through a school full of children" corner. Driving is a skill, learn it and improve on it. If you instead wanted a car that holds your hand, why are you on a forum for a 2 door RWD sports car cause I know you didn't get the car for "all the safety features and great gas mileage".

That 240 in the background, FWD Drift ftw!

Originally Posted by diss7

[thill]

I have no issue with people disabling ABS, TC, SC, etc on the track or a controlled environment. Go for it. I do the same. But when I read (not necessarily the OP, but others) about people turning all this stuff off because it "interferes with their normal driving" I laugh. If you are driving your car that aggressively around daily that your ABS and TC is constantly kicking in to the point that it interferes with your driving, then you are probably driving like an ass. Especially in a residential neighborhood? Personally, I would kick your ass if you drove like that through my neighborhood with kids everywhere. It would be the last time your drove like an asshat through a residential neighborhood.

[zc06_kisstherain]

I kinda feel what OP wants.
I used to drive NA Mazda Miata that has no ABS, no Electronic sensor but only mechanical chassis. Car reacts exactly when i wanted and no surprised moment from unintended situation. I usually turns on all traction control on normal driving

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by SubiePig

All the aids are there for safety and honestly what they are designed to do they do quite well in their proper environment. I usually do the button hold when I get in the car but the few times I forgot and the back end slid I was impressed how well it will recollect the car. That being said, pedal dance or button hold I have always had problems with trail braking in autocross, not so much on track. The car doesn't like it at all and its quite annoying.

If you are in the "omgerd he did the pedal dance of death and is now going to run through a school full of children" corner. Driving is a skill, learn it and improve on it. If you instead wanted a car that holds your hand, why are you on a forum for a 2 door RWD sports car cause I know you didn't get the car for "all the safety features and great gas mileage".

That 240 in the background, FWD Drift ftw!

Since when is the 240 FWD...

[SubiePig]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Since when is the 240 FWD...

Its not and never was..... You dont notice that massive amount of smoke coming from the front tires in an attempt to drift. Rubbing the fender or understeer there's something incorrect in his attempt. Here's your hammer back.

[Asurendra]

Was waiting for these shots to make it on here somewhere

That's my car at Meremere a few weeks ago -- pedal dance on, drift angle too wide for lock, not corrected in time, spun out.

Currently on stands in my garage, undergoing significant rear subframe repair / new tube rear subframe installation, new shocks, new control arms, then off to panelbeaters for chassis straightening, then fabricators for roll cage, then new seats.

Drift life huh? I'd really like a full ABS and Airbag disabling sub-system. Having side curtain airbag deploy in that type of impact was a pretty big downer.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by SubiePig

Its not and never was..... You dont notice that massive amount of smoke coming from the front tires in an attempt to drift. Rubbing the fender or understeer there's something incorrect in his attempt. Here's your hammer back.

FWD Drifting

[ame]http://youtu.be/Hff7kfMODLE[/ame]

Understeer

[ame]http://youtu.be/OKuhNM5Q9Mg[/ame]

Know the difference

[SubiePig]

Originally Posted by Luis_GT

Know the difference

I am fully aware, it was a joke.


The number of people I see at a drift event plowing through a turn at full lock amazes me everytime.

[Luis_GT]

Originally Posted by SubiePig

I am fully aware, it was a joke.

I've been in a rather bad mode and don't catch internet sarcasm...

[diss7]

Well another track day down, REALLY enjoy driving the car with the fuse removed. Braking is definitely improved. I have had to relearn my braking points.

Brake too hard though, and it obviously locks up. Its certainly more enjoyable/satisfying having to find the braking limit myself, than just stomping on the pedal and letting a computer do it all.

I let one of the other 86 owners drive my car, and surprise surprise it didn't explode. He did flat spot one of my rear tyres though, not that I care, I'm entering a drift day on Saturday and was going to finish them off anyway.

While he was driving my car, I was driving his. He has stock brakes, with endless pads. They are much better than stock, but even under pedal dance (I didnt pull the fuse in his car) I had to go back to my original braking points, as thats where ABS seems to kick in.

I followed for a good couple of laps. Ants started getting more confident in my brakes, so was braking later and later. At one corner he got the braking point bang on for my car, and I nearly ran up the back of him, as I'd just been copying his braking points. But that was the first time where he'd pushed the braking point beyond what I could achieve in his car with the ABS on.

But, IMO we defintiely concluded that my car could brake much harder than his could before the ABS kicked in.

[T-dub]

So, no insane rear bias then?


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[TruRace]

It's a like a breath of fresh air when I get into my s13 after not driving it for a while. I've never had a car with driving aids. The FRS does do some funky things sometimes, but I don't see myself doing this to my car. Can't hate on the OP though definitely feel where he's coming from. ABS is really the only driving aid I think a car should have. The rest are for silly nannies.

[diss7]

Originally Posted by T-dub

So, no insane rear bias then?


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It wasn't great. It did have too much rear bias, but it was workable.

BUT, this was caused by me running pretty much rooted semis on the back, and only half worn ones up front.

I'd like to try it again with even tyres all round.

Another thing to add, is that my Wilwood BBK actually INCREASES rear bias, over the stock setup. Something to do with piston area or some jazz, I'm not sure excatly. Wilwood US just made it clear to my local Wilwood dealer, that that was the case, and that while its still fine to use as is, they were more just warning me of the fact, and that ultimately they recommend installing their rear bbk to get back bias similar to stock.

I actually sold my Wilwood BBK at the track today. I want to use a smaller brake kit and use 16's. So I'll be looking into kits that fit 16's, and also dont upset the bias too much.

I dont want to upgrade the rear just for the sake of it, the rear brakes (even my low spec ones) seem to be doing the job fine.

[Dezoris]

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