Thursday March 1st - preorder date for BRZ - Page 18 - Toyota GR86, 86, FR-S and Subaru BRZ Forum & Owners Community

Silverpike · 02-23-2012, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tranzformer

Also Tada didn't design the car. Subaru did.

Not correct. Tetsuya Tada did most definitely design the car. Subaru built it. Regardless of your brand loyalty, these are facts.

neutron256 · 02-23-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Silverpike

Not correct. Tetsuya Tada did most definitely design the car. Subaru built it. Regardless of your brand loyalty, these are facts.

Toyota and Subaru both played their roles. Supposedly Toyota is more responsible for the appearance, and Subaru for the engineering. They both seemed to want to say the other didn't support the project at times.

dsgerbc · 02-23-2012, 08:15 PM

Cruising at @70mph ~2.3k rpm vs ~3k rpm? Yeah, few mpg seems about right.

Zaku · 02-23-2012, 08:25 PM

What is Fact is that Tada designed the FT86 and Toyota's 86 car that is absolutely true. But, Subaru decided and design the Front of the BRZ,the engine, all the test etc. It's basically like you went to have your suit tailored Toyota was the person paying for the tailoring, and picking out the look and style. Then Subaru tailored the suit.

Longhorn248 · 02-23-2012, 08:48 PM

Just got an e-mail from a dealer. I've been told they'll only receive four cars this year and that I can place my order on the first of March. However it will be without a price.

Zaku · 02-23-2012, 08:50 PM

That seems to be the deal with most of the dealer in my area too, and most of the dealers here already have 4-6 people or more on the list. I don't even want to get into how many is on there for the FRS.

maxeveland · 02-23-2012, 08:57 PM

do you think the frs will have the same fuel mileage numbers and require the same 93 octane?

Guff · 02-23-2012, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by maxeveland

do you think the frs will have the same fuel mileage numbers and require the same 93 octane?

Yes, and yes. The BRZ and FRS are EXACTLY THE SAME CARS, save some suspension tweaking.

OrbitalEllipses · 02-23-2012, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by maxeveland

do you think the frs will have the same fuel mileage numbers and require the same 93 octane?

Of course not. It doesn't even have the same engine and transmission!

Of course it's going to have the same mileage if the engine and transmission are the same.

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Originally Posted by thermobox

The latest and greatest from my end:

The entire country will receive approximately 540 cars per month from May - November. This will be divided between 600 plus Dealers.

From another thread. Interesting; I take it allocation numbers to individual dealerships will be based on WRX/STI sales.

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Originally Posted by dsgerbc

Cruising at @70mph ~2.3k rpm vs ~3k rpm? Yeah, few mpg seems about right.

Spot on. MT cruising 70mph at ~3095rpm, at cruising 70mph at 2348rpm according to this calculator, with a tire height/OD of 23.9".

Longhorn248 · 02-23-2012, 09:27 PM

So how am I supposed to pick between Premium and Limited without a price eh?

Xlr8 · 02-23-2012, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Spot on. MT cruising 70mph at ~3095rpm, at cruising 70mph at 2348rpm according to this calculator, with a tire height/OD of 23.9".

Man that's quite a difference. 750RPM is the difference between a car that feels like it's screaming and a car that feels like it's just loafin along.

So what's the trade off? Quicker Corner Exit?
Still scratching my head about this one. I guess I will try and drive both AT and MT.

maxeveland · 02-23-2012, 09:52 PM

competing with a GC seems just about right for the predicted price of around $25k

dsgerbc · 02-23-2012, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by OrbitalEllipses

Spot on. MT cruising 70mph at ~3095rpm, at cruising 70mph at 2348rpm according to this calculator, with a tire height/OD of 23.9".

I cheated and fed auto gears to GT5.

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Originally Posted by Xlr8

So what's the trade off? Quicker Corner Exit?
Still scratching my head about this one. I guess I will try and drive both AT and MT.

A bit faster 0-60 and quarter mile time with MT. In GT5 that is.

crazyprac · 02-23-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by maxeveland

competing with a GC seems just about right for the predicted price of around $25k

yes but there's going to be more GC's made than the ~540 a month that dave mentioned....

with the stiff competition for a brz for awhile, I might have to consider other options

02-23-2012, 08:25 PM	#242
Zaku -Proud of Brzerhood- Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: '17 BRZ CWP LMT. Location: Maryland Posts: 4,153 Thanks: 2,717 Thanked 1,725 Times in 790 Posts Mentioned: 42 Post(s)	What is Fact is that Tada designed the FT86 and Toyota's 86 car that is absolutely true. But, Subaru decided and design the Front of the BRZ,the engine, all the test etc. It's basically like you went to have your suit tailored Toyota was the person paying for the tailoring, and picking out the look and style. Then Subaru tailored the suit. __________________ "The BRZ Section's fine wine" -Zgrinch

02-23-2012, 08:50 PM	#244
Zaku -Proud of Brzerhood- Join Date: Oct 2009 Drives: '17 BRZ CWP LMT. Location: Maryland Posts: 4,153 Thanks: 2,717 Thanked 1,725 Times in 790 Posts Mentioned: 42 Post(s)	That seems to be the deal with most of the dealer in my area too, and most of the dealers here already have 4-6 people or more on the list. I don't even want to get into how many is on there for the FRS. __________________ "The BRZ Section's fine wine" -Zgrinch

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